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19 Dec 2007
Playing at illegal poker clubs/low limit raked games is a ticket to the poor house.

Playing in raked poker games in your town or city is a
great way to lose your poker bankroll. The typical game hosted at these clubs is $1-$2 No Limit Hold'em. There are usually between 6-10 people at the table. Most players buy in for about an average of $200, some may buy-in for $100, others $300, for the sake of the argument we'll say the average buy-in is $200. And let's say the average rebuy is $100. So on a given night, we'll say there is about $3000 on the table between the players. Now, it's 8pm, the game gets going. 25 hands are being dealt an hour, and the dealer is raking each pot $5. Also the player's are tipping $1-2 per pot. In one hour, the player's at the table have paid the house and dealer $150-$200. The game goes until 2am, 6 hours. In 6 hours, the house has $1000+, 33% of the money on the table. Each player
individually, has paid $75-$100 to the house and dealer. When 33% of the money has gone to the house, the players in the game, are at a 33% disadvantage. You have to be 33% better than your opponents, or have a 33% mathematical advantage, just to break-even! Yeah, good luck. And this is in just one night. If you play in these
clubs once a week, you are losing $5000 a year in rake. Also, it should be obvious virtually alllllllll the players are losing. Playing day in day out in these low limit raked games, the house(Tony, Bruno, and Chen Lou) gobble up everyone's money. You can't win when $1000 out of of $3000 is coming off the table each night.
And if you can,(by mining sets vs suckers), what are you going to make $5 an hour in the long run? While Tony, Bruno, and Chen Lou, are dividing up $200-$400-$600 an hour, 1-3 tables, for themselves for proving a room, cards, chips, a dealer, $20 worth of food and drink. Fuck them, you should not be playing in this game on general principal. You make nothing, they make a fortune for themselves, maybe even one million dollars in a year for themselves. If people are taking my money, I want them to beat me out of it playin poker, not fleecing me out of it raking the pot. Don't you agree?

Let's talk about tournaments now. Typical poker tournament, you usually pay $60, plus $10 for the house, or $100+$20 etc. 60+10=14.2% of the prize pool for the house, $100+$20=16.67% of the prize pool for the house. That's a 14% and 17%, respectively, disadvantage you have to overcome just to break-even in the long run. Good luck

As you can see, the house gets all the money, and all the the players lose in low limit raked games.


Home Games

If you host a home game or our interested in starting one and you dont have enough players or would like new players for your game, but your paranoid about inviting strangers off the internet or from whereever into your home, here's my idea: Get people to email you a digital photograph of their drivers license. Online poker rooms, and other businesses ask to see that to safeguard against fraud. If you host a homegame, you could do that too. If you have people's photo, name, address etc. What harm can they do? And it protects everyone there. And if people wont give you a copy drivers license because theyre are worried about what you could do with the info, dont let them come. All my friends, employers, everyone who knows me knows what i look like, my name, address etc. What's the big deal?

The people who know each other from clubs, should exchange email addresses and start playin at each others homes, rotating the deal. You'll save a fortune and make money when you win.


Online Poker

The high rake structure applies to online poker as well. The house is beating 90% of the players in low limit raked games. It's total bullshit what they charge. It could be much less. But businesses charge whatever the market will bear, usually in fact what people are dumb enough to pay. (Polo sweat pants that cost $80 are made out the same material as Hanes sweat pants that cost $10, trust me, that horse doesnt cost $70). For businesses to charge less, they have to be forced to because the market place wont bear what they are charging, people are not buying their product. In the case of online poker, the main sites are charging max rake $3 per pot, 10% on tournaments. Now there is a competitor, World Poker Exchange, that is giving all its players 75% of what they paid in rake for the week back to them every Monday. WPEX charges the standard $3 per pot 10% tournament fees. With the rakeback, maximum rake is equivalent to 75 cents per pot and tournament fees are equivalent to 2.5% of the prize pool. This is a HUGE savings. You can save thousands and thousands of dollars per year by playing on this site. I will admit the software isnt the best, but its more than adequate, and they make improvements all the time.

Here's the backround on World Poker Exchange. They opened up an online sports book in 1995 called World Sports Exchange(www.wsex.com) If you have ever bet sports online, youve heard of this company. It's one of the largest sportsbooks in the world. They been in business for 10+ years. This company is very financially secure and well establised.

What do you think would happen if the 100,000+ players on pokerstars and full tilt allll signed up at World Poker Exchange and each put just $50 or $100 in an account. All of sudden World Poker Exchange would be the largest site on the internet. WE'D ALL BE SAVING A FORTUNE ON RAKE, indefinitely, now, and forever. I emplore all poker players everywhere to sign up and put a small amount of money in a World Poker Exchange account. Give the site a try, even if you play the other sites, sign up, log on, play a few hands on WPEX. If WPEX became the largest site online, what do you think
Full Tilt and Pokerstars would be forced to do? Obviously, lower their rake, and compete on price! The rake is wayyy too much money. Help drive it down by playing at the lowest rake site, WPEX! WWW.WORLDPX.COM


If you enjoy poker and like having money in your pocket, copy and paste this post and spam it on poker forums world-wide, email it to your friends, show it to poker players everywhere.


Someday ill save the planet, but for now, just poker players.


Thanks for reading,


Vincent Checchio
19 Dec 2007
Playing at illegal poker clubs/low limit raked games is a ticket to the poor house.

Playing in raked poker games in your town or city is a
great way to lose your poker bankroll. The typical game hosted at these clubs is $1-$2 No Limit Hold'em. There are usually between 6-10 people at the table. Most players buy in for about an average of $200, some may buy-in for $100, others $300, for the sake of the argument we'll say the average buy-in is $200. And let's say the average rebuy is $100. So on a given night, we'll say there is about $3000 on the table between the players. Now, it's 8pm, the game gets going. 25 hands are being dealt an hour, and the dealer is raking each pot $5. Also the player's are tipping $1-2 per pot. In one hour, the player's at the table have paid the house and dealer $150-$200. The game goes until 2am, 6 hours. In 6 hours, the house has $1000+, 33% of the money on the table. Each player
individually, has paid $75-$100 to the house and dealer. When 33% of the money has gone to the house, the players in the game, are at a 33% disadvantage. You have to be 33% better than your opponents, or have a 33% mathematical advantage, just to break-even! Yeah, good luck. And this is in just one night. If you play in these
clubs once a week, you are losing $5000 a year in rake. Also, it should be obvious virtually alllllllll the players are losing. Playing day in day out in these low limit raked games, the house(Tony, Bruno, and Chen Lou) gobble up everyone's money. You can't win when $1000 out of of $3000 is coming off the table each night.
And if you can,(by mining sets vs suckers), what are you going to make $5 an hour in the long run? While Tony, Bruno, and Chen Lou, are dividing up $200-$400-$600 an hour, 1-3 tables, for themselves for proving a room, cards, chips, a dealer, $20 worth of food and drink. Fuck them, you should not be playing in this game on general principal. You make nothing, they make a fortune for themselves, maybe even one million dollars in a year for themselves. If people are taking my money, I want them to beat me out of it playin poker, not fleecing me out of it raking the pot. Don't you agree?

Let's talk about tournaments now. Typical poker tournament, you usually pay $60, plus $10 for the house, or $100+$20 etc. 60+10=14.2% of the prize pool for the house, $100+$20=16.67% of the prize pool for the house. That's a 14% and 17%, respectively, disadvantage you have to overcome just to break-even in the long run. Good luck

As you can see, the house gets all the money, and all the the players lose in low limit raked games.


Home Games

If you host a home game or our interested in starting one and you dont have enough players or would like new players for your game, but your paranoid about inviting strangers off the internet or from whereever into your home, here's my idea: Get people to email you a digital photograph of their drivers license. Online poker rooms, and other businesses ask to see that to safeguard against fraud. If you host a homegame, you could do that too. If you have people's photo, name, address etc. What harm can they do? And it protects everyone there. And if people wont give you a copy drivers license because theyre are worried about what you could do with the info, dont let them come. All my friends, employers, everyone who knows me knows what i look like, my name, address etc. What's the big deal?

The people who know each other from clubs, should exchange email addresses and start playin at each others homes, rotating the deal. You'll save a fortune and make money when you win.


Online Poker

The high rake structure applies to online poker as well. The house is beating 90% of the players in low limit raked games. It's total bullshit what they charge. It could be much less. But businesses charge whatever the market will bear, usually in fact what people are dumb enough to pay. (Polo sweat pants that cost $80 are made out the same material as Hanes sweat pants that cost $10, trust me, that horse doesnt cost $70). For businesses to charge less, they have to be forced to because the market place wont bear what they are charging, people are not buying their product. In the case of online poker, the main sites are charging max rake $3 per pot, 10% on tournaments. Now there is a competitor, World Poker Exchange, that is giving all its players 75% of what they paid in rake for the week back to them every Monday. WPEX charges the standard $3 per pot 10% tournament fees. With the rakeback, maximum rake is equivalent to 75 cents per pot and tournament fees are equivalent to 2.5% of the prize pool. This is a HUGE savings. You can save thousands and thousands of dollars per year by playing on this site. I will admit the software isnt the best, but its more than adequate, and they make improvements all the time.

Here's the backround on World Poker Exchange. They opened up an online sports book in 1995 called World Sports Exchange(www.wsex.com) If you have ever bet sports online, youve heard of this company. It's one of the largest sportsbooks in the world. They been in business for 10+ years. This company is very financially secure and well establised.

What do you think would happen if the 100,000+ players on pokerstars and full tilt allll signed up at World Poker Exchange and each put just $50 or $100 in an account. All of sudden World Poker Exchange would be the largest site on the internet. WE'D ALL BE SAVING A FORTUNE ON RAKE, indefinitely, now, and forever. I emplore all poker players everywhere to sign up and put a small amount of money in a World Poker Exchange account. Give the site a try, even if you play the other sites, sign up, log on, play a few hands on WPEX. If WPEX became the largest site online, what do you think
Full Tilt and Pokerstars would be forced to do? Obviously, lower their rake, and compete on price! The rake is wayyy too much money. Help drive it down by playing at the lowest rake site, WPEX! WWW.WORLDPX.COM


If you enjoy poker and like having money in your pocket, copy and paste this post and spam it on poker forums world-wide, email it to your friends, show it to poker players everywhere.


Someday ill save the planet, but for now, just poker players.


Thanks for reading,


Vincent Checchio
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