top players flop play

Got in a bit of a spawny streak against the small ballin Noles today and this pot came up I wanted to ask about.

Do good players always autocheckraise the rainbow low poss made straight against an SB/BB 3 bettor or do they give up on the Q rag type hands? I don't think I've ever seen a top player not CR here. Is it an auto get em to fold the overcards with any two situation or is he just doing it with 80% of his hands that aren't worthless?

He'd been playing me long enough to see I wasn't making any crazy moves.

PokerStars Game #11249031813: Hold'em Limit ($3/$6) - 2007/08/01 - 03:51:38 (ET)
Table 'Sarpedon' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: go_seminoles ($178.50 in chips)
Seat 2: kalibershanD ($205.50 in chips)
Seat 3: CHEONGPA ($120 in chips)
Seat 4: oogee ($132 in chips)
Seat 6: WWE_HBK ($187 in chips)
go_seminoles: posts small blind $1
kalibershanD: posts big blind $3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to kalibershanD [As 4s]
CHEONGPA: folds
oogee: folds
WWE_HBK: folds
go_seminoles: raises $3 to $6
kalibershanD: raises $3 to $9
go_seminoles: calls $3
*** FLOP *** [6s 7c Th]
go_seminoles: checks
kalibershanD: bets $3
go_seminoles: raises $3 to $6
old kud leaves the table
kalibershanD: calls $3
*** TURN *** [6s 7c Th] [5s]
go_seminoles: bets $6
kalibershanD: raises $6 to $12
go_seminoles: calls $6
*** RIVER *** [6s 7c Th 5s] [Ks]
go_seminoles: checks
kalibershanD: bets $6
go_seminoles: calls $6
*** SHOW DOWN ***
kalibershanD: shows [As 4s] (a flush, Ace high)
go_seminoles: mucks hand
kalibershanD collected $64 from pot
go_seminoles said, "yawn"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $66 | Rake $2
Board [6s 7c Th 5s Ks]
Seat 1: go_seminoles (small blind) mucked [8s 6d]
Seat 2: kalibershanD (big blind) showed [As 4s] and won ($64) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 3: CHEONGPA folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: oogee folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: WWE_HBK (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

PokerStars Game #11249164270: Hold'em Limit ($3/$6) - 2007/08/01 - 04:14:45 (ET)
Table 'Sarpedon' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: go_seminoles ($190.50 in chips)
Seat 2: kalibershanD ($299.50 in chips)
Seat 3: CHEONGPA ($85 in chips)
Seat 4: oogee ($73 in chips)
Seat 5: Ninh ($57 in chips)
Seat 6: brenbut ($17 in chips)
kalibershanD: posts small blind $1
CHEONGPA: posts big blind $3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to kalibershanD [Qs Kh]
oogee: folds
Ninh: folds
brenbut: folds
go_seminoles: raises $3 to $6
kalibershanD: raises $3 to $9
CHEONGPA: folds
go_seminoles: calls $3
*** FLOP *** [6s 7s 5d]
kalibershanD: bets $3
go_seminoles: raises $3 to $6
kalibershanD: calls $3
*** TURN *** [6s 7s 5d] [5h]
kalibershanD: checks
go_seminoles: bets $6
kalibershanD: folds
go_seminoles collected $32 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $33 | Rake $1
Board [6s 7s 5d 5h]
Seat 1: go_seminoles (button) collected ($32)
Seat 2: kalibershanD (small blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 3: CHEONGPA (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: oogee folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Ninh folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: brenbut folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Same thing happened here. I think maybe I should've called him down.

People posting OOP shorthanded.

With these new HORSE tables on Stars, something you get quite a lot is people joining in the stud sections, getting involved and not being prepared to sit out a few hands when Holdem comes around. So they just post UTG or whatever.

Of course, when you find yourself in this situation in NL, with four blinds, two of which have already checked, you take a 72 off and raise it up the size of the pot. As you get called loads in limit, what are your minimum requirements for stealing on the button. I hate it when I get something that is just a little too weak for me to try it every time. I'd probably do it with a T9offsuit or T8suited. I think you just need a reasonable chance to have the best hand if you flop a pair, but I'm compulsive.

PokerStars Game #6462342826: HORSE (Hold'em Limit, $5/$10) - 2006/09/29 - 14:01:40 (ET)
Table 'Leonteus' 8-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: foxrun ($165.50 in chips)
Seat 2: kalibershanD ($679.75 in chips)
Seat 5: il2randr ($296 in chips)
Seat 6: marty310 ($105 in chips)
Seat 7: MissLeading ($161 in chips)
il2randr: posts small blind $2
marty310: posts big blind $5
MissLeading: posts big blind $5
foxrun: posts big blind $5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to kalibershanD [5s Ts] grr, so frustrating
MissLeading: checks
foxrun: checks
kalibershanD: folds
il2randr: calls $3
marty310: checks
*** FLOP *** [2h 2s 8h]
il2randr: checks
marty310: checks
MissLeading: checks
foxrun: checks
*** TURN *** [2h 2s 8h] [Th]
il2randr: checks
marty310: bets $10
MissLeading: folds
foxrun: folds
il2randr: folds
marty310 collected $19 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $20 | Rake $1
Board [2h 2s 8h Th]
Seat 1: foxrun folded on the Turn
Seat 2: kalibershanD (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: il2randr (small blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 6: marty310 (big blind) collected ($19)
Seat 7: MissLeading folded on the Turn

Free porn satellite channels

Have you all tried www.4tv.com yet? The women on the one channel I've tried so far (Adult TV1) aren't all that, but you might get a hottie eventually. I only found this a few minutes ago.

How to not get fucked at a final table on Pokerstars

We all know that the way Pokerstars calculates chipchops favours the larger stack but it's hard to estimate exactly how much you are losing if you are short and you agree to the deal as suggested by Stars. The problem is the calc assumes all the spare change goes to first when a lot of it goes to second and maybe more players if more than 3 people are chopping.

If you happen to make a deal and you don't have a chiplead, this is how to calculate what you should be getting:

E.g.
1st 161635.50
2nd 88978.50
3rd 52650

Stacks
1st 5162500
2nd 5000000
3rd 3000000

Stars deal
20k for 1st
1st 101799.75
2nd 100252.66
3rd 81211.59

Go to http://sharnett.bol.ucla.edu/ICM/ICM.html

Type in
161635.50/88978.5/52650
5162500
5000000
3000000

You get
1st 108329.72
2nd 107029.11
3rd 87905.16

Now because 20k is left over, multiple 20k by your stack percentage and subtract.

You now get
1st 100485.47
2nd 99431.76
3rd 83346.76

Huge advantage example:

10000000/2000000/1162500

Stars deal

20k for 1st
1st 147855.32
2nd 71691.06
3rd 63717.62

Fair deal

20k for 1st
1st 127874.19
2nd 84160.36
3rd 71229.45

Note: while this seems pretty simple, I've never seen it written anywhere so I'm assuming nobody ever works out their true equity at the FT when making a deal, especially as it takes about 5 minutes. Probably a good thing, but at least NWP members will have a decent edge if they ever get to a big FT in the future.

I'm not sure I'd like Stars to calculate it properly. If I ever get there, I'd like it fucked up the Stars way so I can take a deal which really suits me or try and negotiate to a fair deal if it doesn't. I'd be happy to play on if I couldn't get a fair deal.

Druffs Book. What do we want?

Just so he gets a better picture of what kind of demand is left for a limit book in the poker world, do we want a book that specialises in a grossly neglected important corner of the market, or do we want yet another general lightweight full ring book that just tells us to loosen up a bit with less players to add to the pile?