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post Jul 2 2008, 08:18 PM
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You may refer to mexicans as latinos as you wish.


Um.. it's the fact that you referred to Latinos as another way of saying Mexican (which is obviously not the case).


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If you are from mexico I will call you a mexican. Is that a slam?

No. Who said it was a slam?

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I am from America, do I call myself a North American ? No, I am an American.

You can, as there are different parts of Americas.

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The majority of illegals in America are mexicans plain and simple.
So? A majority does not mean that ALL illegals are from Mexico as there are many from other countries as well. By referring to illegal immigrants as a whole as Mexicans, all you are doing is perpetuating a lie.

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If it makes you feel educated, continue thinking that illegals are equally divided from different countries.

Quote me on this. As I have never said that illegals are equally divided from different countries, I believe you'll have a hard time doing so.


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I think you are wrong . Mexico is the problem. Our government has LET Mexico be a problem because of cheap labor.

So the USA is as much a part of the problem as Mexico is. Thanks for the insight.

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I welcome raids on companies who employ illegals.

As do I.

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I wish they would take the ceo's with them.Are you really so naieve to think mexican's are not a drain on U.S. healthcare more than say el salvador? Pull your head out, its sunny outside.Have a nice day.

I believe illegal immigrants from Mexico are more of a drain than illegal immigrants than El Salvador because of the simple fact that there are more illegal immigrants from Mexico in the USA.

Any other questions?
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post Jul 2 2008, 08:32 PM
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post Jul 2 2008, 08:33 PM
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QUOTE(tavu23 @ Jul 3 2008, 04:32 AM) *
I'll wait until you evolve .


Until you do what? Make an intelligent argument that isn't fueled by your xenophobia?
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post Jul 2 2008, 08:38 PM
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post Jul 2 2008, 08:39 PM
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Any bar freeroll wins lately?


Nope, just playing professionally for the last year and a half. (you fucking frog)


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post Jul 2 2008, 08:42 PM
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QUOTE(soccertease @ Jul 2 2008, 11:39 PM) *
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Soccertease,

Any bar freeroll wins lately?


Nope, just playing professionally for the last year and a half. (you fucking frog)



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post Jul 2 2008, 08:46 PM
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post Jul 2 2008, 08:48 PM
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post Jul 2 2008, 08:49 PM
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post Jul 2 2008, 09:24 PM
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QUOTE(soccertease @ Jul 3 2008, 12:39 AM) *
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Soccertease,

Any bar freeroll wins lately?


Nope, just playing professionally for the last year and a half. (you fucking frog)




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post Jul 2 2008, 10:04 PM
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post Jul 2 2008, 10:08 PM
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post Jul 3 2008, 12:11 AM
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I received the hater tag for expressing my opinions on illegal immigration. I think mexicans are bleeding American's healthcare system to death. I think illegal mexicans should be sent back to mexico where they can fix there own country instead of bringing their kids to America for me to pay for. Go to an emergency room and check out the wait times. Check out the ethnicity while you are there. Call me anything you want , but I didn't start the backlash against the mexicans. mexicans brought this upon themselves. Have a nice day. Oh, and by the way, fly your mexican flag hi in America ! Thx micon, ur website isn't for free speech it seems.


I don't think you should have gotten the "hater" tag. I agree our current immigration policy is horrid. There are exactly zero Mexicans where I live, however the problem (which is where the "hater" might have come from), is you are generalizing by saying "Mexicans are bleeding American's health care system.." as opposed to illegal immigrants (which are not entirely comprised of Mexicans). Mexicans (those here legally) aren't bleeding the health care system more than any other ethnicity (that is here legally).

I don't believe shipping off 12-20 million people from this country (some who have been here for MANY years) is a feasible reality. There has to be a way to punish those who came here illegally, while at the same time allowing a path to legal citizenship (in which they will be paying taxes, be held MORE accountable for any crimes they commit, etc). Obviously paying a semi-large sum in back-taxes is a first step.

You seem to use isolated incidents (such as the wait time in a hospital), to stereotype an entire segment of our population (Mexicans). Do you know how much of the wait time is as a direct result of illegal immigrants and how much is a result of possible overcrowded, underfunded, etc. hospitals? I am not saying you are wrong, but what facts do you have to support your claim?

You keep mentioning Mexicans and how "they brought this upon themselves". Your xenophobia has you grouping all Latinos as Mexicans (per your John McCain thread), and most Mexicans as illegal immigrants (which is not the case).

I don't have a problem with a group of people having pride in their heritage and wanting to "wave their flag". What I DO have a problem with (which I assume you are addressing), is when illegal immigrants come here and "wave their flag" and talk about making the USA into "Aztlan". That is a double slap in the face as they are currently breaking OUR laws by being in this country in the first place, and then believe they have some say in what happens here.

But anyway.. stop grouping Mexicans with illegal immigrants and focus your efforts to fighting illegal immigration and the many problems it brings (if that is your true purpose). I am hoping you aren't just a bigot, but are in fact a concerned citizen with mild xenophobia (which will obviously go away once you get a little more educated on the subject).


I agree with you for the most part except the fact that the majority of the illegals in California drain the system beyond belief. Countless ER'S have been shut down and a lot of neighborhoods just looking like Mexico City. The worst part of it is that we don't enforce the laws that are in place and these cities (specifically San Francisco and LA) are sanctuary cities and make no effort to enforce the laws in place. Not to mention the fact that a lot of illegals are criminals and shouldn't even be on the streets but are cut loose on the streets to commit more crimes because the lack of enforcement.


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post Jul 3 2008, 05:29 AM
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QUOTE(HelloThere @ Jul 3 2008, 08:11 AM) *
QUOTE(Waterflow @ Jul 2 2008, 07:12 PM) *
QUOTE(tavu23 @ Jul 3 2008, 01:53 AM) *
I received the hater tag for expressing my opinions on illegal immigration. I think mexicans are bleeding American's healthcare system to death. I think illegal mexicans should be sent back to mexico where they can fix there own country instead of bringing their kids to America for me to pay for. Go to an emergency room and check out the wait times. Check out the ethnicity while you are there. Call me anything you want , but I didn't start the backlash against the mexicans. mexicans brought this upon themselves. Have a nice day. Oh, and by the way, fly your mexican flag hi in America ! Thx micon, ur website isn't for free speech it seems.


I don't think you should have gotten the "hater" tag. I agree our current immigration policy is horrid. There are exactly zero Mexicans where I live, however the problem (which is where the "hater" might have come from), is you are generalizing by saying "Mexicans are bleeding American's health care system.." as opposed to illegal immigrants (which are not entirely comprised of Mexicans). Mexicans (those here legally) aren't bleeding the health care system more than any other ethnicity (that is here legally).

I don't believe shipping off 12-20 million people from this country (some who have been here for MANY years) is a feasible reality. There has to be a way to punish those who came here illegally, while at the same time allowing a path to legal citizenship (in which they will be paying taxes, be held MORE accountable for any crimes they commit, etc). Obviously paying a semi-large sum in back-taxes is a first step.

You seem to use isolated incidents (such as the wait time in a hospital), to stereotype an entire segment of our population (Mexicans). Do you know how much of the wait time is as a direct result of illegal immigrants and how much is a result of possible overcrowded, underfunded, etc. hospitals? I am not saying you are wrong, but what facts do you have to support your claim?

You keep mentioning Mexicans and how "they brought this upon themselves". Your xenophobia has you grouping all Latinos as Mexicans (per your John McCain thread), and most Mexicans as illegal immigrants (which is not the case).

I don't have a problem with a group of people having pride in their heritage and wanting to "wave their flag". What I DO have a problem with (which I assume you are addressing), is when illegal immigrants come here and "wave their flag" and talk about making the USA into "Aztlan". That is a double slap in the face as they are currently breaking OUR laws by being in this country in the first place, and then believe they have some say in what happens here.

But anyway.. stop grouping Mexicans with illegal immigrants and focus your efforts to fighting illegal immigration and the many problems it brings (if that is your true purpose). I am hoping you aren't just a bigot, but are in fact a concerned citizen with mild xenophobia (which will obviously go away once you get a little more educated on the subject).


I agree with you for the most part except the fact that the majority of the illegals in California drain the system beyond belief. Countless ER'S have been shut down and a lot of neighborhoods just looking like Mexico City. The worst part of it is that we don't enforce the laws that are in place and these cities (specifically San Francisco and LA) are sanctuary cities and make no effort to enforce the laws in place. Not to mention the fact that a lot of illegals are criminals and shouldn't even be on the streets but are cut loose on the streets to commit more crimes because the lack of enforcement.



Hm... The problem seems to be that a lot of the local officials in those particular cities (esp. LA) are sympathetic towards the "plight" of illegal immigrants. I don't know if this is because the elected officials are for the most part Latino or because California is a very liberal state. That's why I feel the federal government HAS to get involved. Otherwise there will continue to be an influx of illegals who, simply by coming here are breaking the law. I don't agree with the "fact that a lot of illegals are criminals"... I'm open to changing my mind if I could see some facts to support this claim. I am in no way naive and completely acknowledge that there are in fact illegal immigrants who were criminals in Mexico or BECOME criminals when they arrive in the USA. However "a lot" in my opinion implies the majority (but I guess this is subjective).

Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't illegal immigrants who commit crimes in the USA returned to there home countries to face charges and / or thrown in jail like the rest of the people who commit similar crimes? I would prefer the former, as I don't believe American tax dollars should go to housing an illegal immigrant convict.

Fucking Bush. Spending all this time and money "nation-building" a middle eastern cesspool, while our country turns to shit. When will OUR country be the focus of this "nation-building"?
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post Jul 3 2008, 05:53 AM
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I don't know if it was someone on NWP or I read it somewhere else, but the solution to the illegal immigration problem is really easy:

Allow it. Protect the rights of illegal immigrants and make sure they get fair wages. They'll never be hired again, because there's no reason to hire someone lacking when it costs the same amount.

Problem solved...


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post Jul 3 2008, 06:03 AM
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QUOTE(Merlin9999 @ Jul 3 2008, 01:53 PM) *
I don't know if it was someone on NWP or I read it somewhere else, but the solution to the illegal immigration problem is really easy:

Allow it. Protect the rights of illegal immigrants and make sure they get fair wages. They'll never be hired again, because there's no reason to hire someone lacking when it costs the same amount.

Problem solved...


Except for the fact that there will always be employers who will attempt to circumvent the system by allowing their "potential employees" to undercut each others wages. As a result we will have a bunch of legal immigrants here who are getting paid more but still not enough for the average American to survive on.

However, I guess they'll at least be paying taxes (and hopefully back-taxes), so that should help our economy out a LITTLE.
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post Jul 3 2008, 06:12 AM
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QUOTE(Waterflow @ Jul 3 2008, 11:03 AM) *
QUOTE(Merlin9999 @ Jul 3 2008, 01:53 PM) *
I don't know if it was someone on NWP or I read it somewhere else, but the solution to the illegal immigration problem is really easy:

Allow it. Protect the rights of illegal immigrants and make sure they get fair wages. They'll never be hired again, because there's no reason to hire someone lacking when it costs the same amount.

Problem solved...


Except for the fact that there will always be employers who will attempt to circumvent the system by allowing their "potential employees" to undercut each others wages. As a result we will have a bunch of legal immigrants here who are getting paid more but still not enough for the average American to survive on.

However, I guess they'll at least be paying taxes (and hopefully back-taxes), so that should help our economy out a LITTLE.


I guess global economics and immigration weren't as simple as I originally thought. I still find the idea an attractive solution, though. Something nicely counter-intuitive about it that really captured my imagination.


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Soccer,

1-2NL paying the bills big time now? Soon will you have enough for hairplugs? You 408 looking cock holster.


Very ignorant post considering most good 1/2nl players make 50 bucks plus an hour which is probably more than 95% of the tourney donks who claim to be pro. The very best making 1/2 players make over 100 an hour twelve tabling.


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