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post Jul 2 2008, 04:22 PM
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The problem is most of us don't give a shit about the site blowing up or Micon making more money. Obv it's his site and he should be doing what's best for him and not us, but I don't buy the whole balance thing; the site was great, it's still fun, but is definitely NOT going to get better for the users/regulars.
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post Jul 2 2008, 04:23 PM
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IMO Micon wants to be the Howard Stern of the poker world. If you happen to have Sirius and are listening to the History of Howard Stern this week....you will notice that Stern took the same kind of heat.

Difference is that he didn't cave and shit the bed...

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post Jul 2 2008, 04:30 PM
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QUOTE(FuckTheNiggerFaggot... @ Jul 2 2008, 04:26 PM) *
QUOTE(FckVwls™ @ Jul 2 2008, 11:15 PM) *
I'd like to respond to a few of your points, FTNF...

First off, I've never seen Druff and Micon putting more effort into the site than they are right now. Both are contributing a shit ton of writing and time, and have expanded the radio venue as well. But the writing that you don't see is the real backbone of what is changing. The stuff you don't read because it doesn't end up in Shooting Off, is hours and hours of "product" - content that drives traffic in ways you are not aware of. Both Micon and Druff have stepped up to this in a big way in the last few months. The profits from that will be seen down the line.

In addition, during this WSOP, Micon has put himself out there and garnered media attention. He has reported every event here on these boards, and landed himself a gig doing "The Degenerate Report, etc". Yes these are small details, but they add up. All these things bring traffic.

With new traffic come new pressures and opinions. With new input comes change - maybe growing pains. No one wants the basic flavor of NWP to change. No one wants people like Indiana Slim to flip out or leave. But NWP as it is, is slightly less than marketable, no? And if the bottom line is to make money, the site will have to evolve.

Do you think we can strike a balance between the utter loathsome filth we are now, and the white bread, boring, ultra-monitored spew we find on other poker sites? I do.


It's possibly true that they are doing much more than I see. But its embarassing when been starring and ship the perc has to run these things. It gives off a pretty negative impression. I guess from a media stanpoint they are doing well to bring attention to the site. But me being a member and not an owner is of course more interested in making the site better.


Been set up one, maybe two tourneys where as Micon had set up the majority of them up until a few weeks ago. The WSOP is going on right now and the guy is very busy, cut him a little slack. Also, Druff was highly instrumental in setting up the freeroll, and they just threw a tourney that paid out a WSOP ME seat which was all Micon, Druff and Bododg. You can never please them all I guess.
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post Jul 2 2008, 04:33 PM
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Money. If the bigotry was really something Micon wanted to get rid of he would of gone after all bigotry, not just racism against african-americans. And actually having something against only certain kind of bigots, well what does that make you?

And I am glad the "NBA" is gone.


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post Jul 2 2008, 04:39 PM
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QUOTE(bivey @ Jul 2 2008, 08:33 PM) *
Money. If the bigotry was really something Micon wanted to get rid of he would of gone after all bigotry, not just racism against african-americans. And actually having something against only certain kind of bigots, well what does that make you?

And I am glad the "NBA" is gone.


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Vwls, this is wrong.

most of the good shit will be in Shooting off. also remember there is nothing that says we cannot debate graphically. just more on topic, less bullshit.

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post Jul 2 2008, 04:42 PM
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QUOTE(Paco @ Jul 2 2008, 07:39 PM) *
QUOTE(bivey @ Jul 2 2008, 08:33 PM) *
Money. If the bigotry was really something Micon wanted to get rid of he would of gone after all bigotry, not just racism against african-americans. And actually having something against only certain kind of bigots, well what does that make you?

And I am glad the "NBA" is gone.


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post Jul 2 2008, 04:43 PM
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lol you'd think Micon would be rattled by the anti-semetic bs remarks him being jewish and all. And if he wants money thats who he should be catering to the yids who actually have money to invest in this site or play poker lol


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post Jul 2 2008, 05:08 PM
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QUOTE(bivey @ Jul 2 2008, 08:42 PM) *
QUOTE(Paco @ Jul 2 2008, 07:39 PM) *
QUOTE(bivey @ Jul 2 2008, 08:33 PM) *
Money. If the bigotry was really something Micon wanted to get rid of he would of gone after all bigotry, not just racism against african-americans. And actually having something against only certain kind of bigots, well what does that make you?

And I am glad the "NBA" is gone.


are you a gook?



Human
what species of human are you?


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Vwls, this is wrong.

most of the good shit will be in Shooting off. also remember there is nothing that says we cannot debate graphically. just more on topic, less bullshit.

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post Jul 2 2008, 05:22 PM
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wait people read the front page everyday?


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post Jul 2 2008, 05:41 PM
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QUOTE(Paco @ Jul 2 2008, 08:08 PM) *
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QUOTE(Paco @ Jul 2 2008, 07:39 PM) *
QUOTE(bivey @ Jul 2 2008, 08:33 PM) *
Money. If the bigotry was really something Micon wanted to get rid of he would of gone after all bigotry, not just racism against african-americans. And actually having something against only certain kind of bigots, well what does that make you?

And I am glad the "NBA" is gone.


are you a gook?



Human
what species of human are you?


Humans are and have been all the same species for quite a long time. Though there have been many species that are our ancestors.


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post Jul 2 2008, 05:49 PM
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post Jul 2 2008, 05:53 PM
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I received the hater tag for expressing my opinions on illegal immigration. I think mexicans are bleeding American's healthcare system to death. I think illegal mexicans should be sent back to mexico where they can fix there own country instead of bringing their kids to America for me to pay for. Go to an emergency room and check out the wait times. Check out the ethnicity while you are there. Call me anything you want , but I didn't start the backlash against the mexicans. mexicans brought this upon themselves. Have a nice day. Oh, and by the way, fly your mexican flag hi in America ! Thx micon, ur website isn't for free speech it seems.

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QUOTE(bivey @ Jul 3 2008, 12:33 AM) *
Money. If the bigotry was really something Micon wanted to get rid of he would of gone after all bigotry, not just racism against african-americans. And actually having something against only certain kind of bigots, well what does that make you?

And I am glad the "NBA" is gone.






He wanted to say nigger


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QUOTE(CrankyMessiah @ Jul 3 2008, 12:00 PM) *
QUOTE(bivey @ Jul 3 2008, 12:33 AM) *
Money. If the bigotry was really something Micon wanted to get rid of he would of gone after all bigotry, not just racism against african-americans. And actually having something against only certain kind of bigots, well what does that make you?

And I am glad the "NBA" is gone.






He wanted to say nigger

omg haterize obv and how dare you cost micon -.47 cents, sir


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post Jul 2 2008, 06:12 PM
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QUOTE(tavu23 @ Jul 3 2008, 01:53 AM) *
I received the hater tag for expressing my opinions on illegal immigration. I think mexicans are bleeding American's healthcare system to death. I think illegal mexicans should be sent back to mexico where they can fix there own country instead of bringing their kids to America for me to pay for. Go to an emergency room and check out the wait times. Check out the ethnicity while you are there. Call me anything you want , but I didn't start the backlash against the mexicans. mexicans brought this upon themselves. Have a nice day. Oh, and by the way, fly your mexican flag hi in America ! Thx micon, ur website isn't for free speech it seems.


I don't think you should have gotten the "hater" tag. I agree our current immigration policy is horrid. There are exactly zero Mexicans where I live, however the problem (which is where the "hater" might have come from), is you are generalizing by saying "Mexicans are bleeding American's health care system.." as opposed to illegal immigrants (which are not entirely comprised of Mexicans). Mexicans (those here legally) aren't bleeding the health care system more than any other ethnicity (that is here legally).

I don't believe shipping off 12-20 million people from this country (some who have been here for MANY years) is a feasible reality. There has to be a way to punish those who came here illegally, while at the same time allowing a path to legal citizenship (in which they will be paying taxes, be held MORE accountable for any crimes they commit, etc). Obviously paying a semi-large sum in back-taxes is a first step.

You seem to use isolated incidents (such as the wait time in a hospital), to stereotype an entire segment of our population (Mexicans). Do you know how much of the wait time is as a direct result of illegal immigrants and how much is a result of possible overcrowded, underfunded, etc. hospitals? I am not saying you are wrong, but what facts do you have to support your claim?

You keep mentioning Mexicans and how "they brought this upon themselves". Your xenophobia has you grouping all Latinos as Mexicans (per your John McCain thread), and most Mexicans as illegal immigrants (which is not the case).

I don't have a problem with a group of people having pride in their heritage and wanting to "wave their flag". What I DO have a problem with (which I assume you are addressing), is when illegal immigrants come here and "wave their flag" and talk about making the USA into "Aztlan". That is a double slap in the face as they are currently breaking OUR laws by being in this country in the first place, and then believe they have some say in what happens here.

But anyway.. stop grouping Mexicans with illegal immigrants and focus your efforts to fighting illegal immigration and the many problems it brings (if that is your true purpose). I am hoping you aren't just a bigot, but are in fact a concerned citizen with mild xenophobia (which will obviously go away once you get a little more educated on the subject).
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You may refer to mexicans as latinos as you wish. If you are from mexico I will call you a mexican. Is that a slam? I am from America, do I call myself a North American ? No, I am an American. The majority of illegals in America are mexicans plain and simple. If it makes you feel educated, continue thinking that illegals are equally divided from different countries. I think you are wrong . Mexico is the problem. Our government has LET Mexico be a problem because of cheap labor. I welcome raids on companies who employ illegals. I wish they would take the ceo's with them.Are you really so naieve to think mexican's are not a drain on U.S. healthcare more than say el salvador? Pull your head out, its sunny outside.Have a nice day.
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QUOTE(tavu23 @ Jul 2 2008, 11:02 PM) *
You may refer to mexicans as latinos as you wish. If you are from mexico I will call you a mexican. Is that a slam? I am from America, do I call myself a North American ? No, I am an American. The majority of illegals in America are mexicans plain and simple. If it makes you feel educated, continue thinking that illegals are equally divided from different countries. I think you are wrong . Mexico is the problem. Our government has LET Mexico be a problem because of cheap labor. I welcome raids on companies who employ illegals. I wish they would take the ceo's with them.Are you really so naieve to think mexican's are not a drain on U.S. healthcare more than say el salvador? Pull your head out, its sunny outside.Have a nice day.


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