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Phil Hellmuth Breaking Rules, Harrah's Floormen Absurdly Incompitent, From $1500 Stud 8 Event tonight... updates inside

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post Jun 28 2008, 10:14 PM
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you have no idea... not being able to see an accurate rule book for a ridiculously high dollar gambling game is a big fucking deal to those that actually play in it.

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I would call the gambling commission. Seriously. Harrah's posting rules online, then changing them, then not giving players access to the modified rules is a clear violation of state gambling laws. Report the dickhead floor person, and the person immediately above him as the principles involved.


Also quite a good idea. I promise they are breaking a rule by not shipping me the rules.

You should find out the rules before you signup as well. If you are going to gamble for big money you should maybe try and find out the rules before you enter an event
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post Jun 28 2008, 10:22 PM
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QUOTE(Chinamaniac @ Jun 28 2008, 11:14 PM) *
You should find out the rules before you signup as well. If you are going to gamble for big money you should maybe try and find out the rules before you enter an event


lol read the story.

That is the whole fucking problem - if you go the website and get the rules (before you play tomorrow's $1500 HORSE event, for instance), they are the WRONG RULES. read the whole story before you clog up the beginning of this thread with more stupidity. Big problem @ the Rio no one is addressing.


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post Jun 28 2008, 10:33 PM
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QUOTE(micon @ Jun 29 2008, 02:22 AM) *
QUOTE(Chinamaniac @ Jun 28 2008, 11:14 PM) *
You should find out the rules before you signup as well. If you are going to gamble for big money you should maybe try and find out the rules before you enter an event


lol read the story.

That is the whole fucking problem - if you go the website and get the rules (before you play tomorrow's $1500 HORSE event, for instance), they are the WRONG RULES. read the whole story before you clog up the beginning of this thread with more stupidity. Big problem @ the Rio no one is addressing.

I did read the story. Why wait until the world series is almost over to bring this up. Remember you are playing for big money. You should have investigated every rule before the wsop
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post Jun 28 2008, 10:43 PM
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QUOTE(Chinamaniac @ Jun 29 2008, 07:33 AM) *
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QUOTE(Chinamaniac @ Jun 28 2008, 11:14 PM) *
You should find out the rules before you signup as well. If you are going to gamble for big money you should maybe try and find out the rules before you enter an event


lol read the story.

That is the whole fucking problem - if you go the website and get the rules (before you play tomorrow's $1500 HORSE event, for instance), they are the WRONG RULES. read the whole story before you clog up the beginning of this thread with more stupidity. Big problem @ the Rio no one is addressing.

I did read the story. Why wait until the world series is almost over to bring this up. Remember you are playing for big money. You should have investigated every rule before the wsop

are you drunk or just kidding or what? if you don't think it's a problem that harrah's cannot provide players with a copy of the correct rules you are not the sharpest tool in the shed
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post Jun 28 2008, 10:43 PM
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QUOTE(Chinamaniac @ Jun 28 2008, 11:33 PM) *
I did read the story. Why wait until the world series is almost over to bring this up. Remember you are playing for big money. You should have investigated every rule before the wsop


obv you are drunk / too stupid right now...

so you think it's fine that Harrah's won't give it's customers a copy of the rules? obv. I'm lazy and it didn't come up until a few days ago... and obviously no one would ask a floor if there were changes to the rules since you printed them from the WSOP site this morning!


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post Jun 28 2008, 10:47 PM
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QUOTE(micon @ Jun 29 2008, 02:43 AM) *
QUOTE(Chinamaniac @ Jun 28 2008, 11:33 PM) *
I did read the story. Why wait until the world series is almost over to bring this up. Remember you are playing for big money. You should have investigated every rule before the wsop


obv you are drunk / too stupid right now...

so you think it's fine that Harrah's won't give it's customers a copy of the rules? obv. I'm lazy and it didn't come up until a few days ago... and obviously no one would ask a floor if there were changes to the rules since you printed them from the WSOP site this morning!



How hard did you press for this? If you pressed hard enough they would have gotten them for you.
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post Jun 28 2008, 10:51 PM
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QUOTE(Chinamaniac @ Jun 29 2008, 07:47 AM) *
QUOTE(micon @ Jun 29 2008, 02:43 AM) *
QUOTE(Chinamaniac @ Jun 28 2008, 11:33 PM) *
I did read the story. Why wait until the world series is almost over to bring this up. Remember you are playing for big money. You should have investigated every rule before the wsop


obv you are drunk / too stupid right now...

so you think it's fine that Harrah's won't give it's customers a copy of the rules? obv. I'm lazy and it didn't come up until a few days ago... and obviously no one would ask a floor if there were changes to the rules since you printed them from the WSOP site this morning!



How hard did you press for this? If you pressed hard enough they would have gotten them for you.

after bryan asked to see a copy of the rules several times he was told they were on the internet. then when he printed the rules from the internet and showed them to the guy the next day, the floor said that one rule had been changed. bryan then asked for an updated copy of the rules and was told it cannot be provided! they apparently do not have a copy of the actual rules on site
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QUOTE(MiconsGirl @ Jun 28 2008, 11:51 PM) *
QUOTE(Chinamaniac @ Jun 29 2008, 07:47 AM) *
QUOTE(micon @ Jun 29 2008, 02:43 AM) *
QUOTE(Chinamaniac @ Jun 28 2008, 11:33 PM) *
I did read the story. Why wait until the world series is almost over to bring this up. Remember you are playing for big money. You should have investigated every rule before the wsop


obv you are drunk / too stupid right now...

so you think it's fine that Harrah's won't give it's customers a copy of the rules? obv. I'm lazy and it didn't come up until a few days ago... and obviously no one would ask a floor if there were changes to the rules since you printed them from the WSOP site this morning!



How hard did you press for this? If you pressed hard enough they would have gotten them for you.

after bryan asked to see a copy of the rules several times he was told they were on the internet. then when he printed the rules from the internet and showed them to the guy the next day, the floor said that one rule had been changed. bryan then asked for an updated copy of the rules and was told it cannot be provided! they apparently do not have a copy of the actual rules on site
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post Jun 28 2008, 11:12 PM
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There is only one solution now . Challenge Phil Hellmuth , Robert Smith, and Jeff Pollack to a steel cage 4 way ladder match. Winner gets an official copy of the rules. And whoever goes donkdown out of you and Phil first gets a copy of the other guys system. Now I will set odds on this match but I need to know which Robert Smith we are talking about here.

This one

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or this one?

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post Jun 28 2008, 11:17 PM
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QUOTE(Chinamaniac @ Jun 29 2008, 07:12 AM) *
There is only one solution now . Challenge Phil Hellmuth , Robert Smith, and Jeff Pollack to a steel cage 4 way ladder match. Winner gets an official copy of the rules. And whoever goes donkdown out of you and Phil first gets a copy of the other guys system. Now I will set odds on this match but I need to know which Robert Smith we are talking about here.

This one

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or this one?

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better hope its the viking, as the weirdo from the cure can turn into a giant hummingbird


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post Jun 28 2008, 11:41 PM
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Does this rule apply to the devilfish? I think I remember his antics going unpunished at a PLO final table in recent years.


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post Jun 28 2008, 11:48 PM
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I've been to 35 or so casinos in my life and I have yet to see a rulebook laying around. The general rules are:


1. No use of cell phones permitted at the table during live play
2. Meat in the seat when the second card hits or hand is dead
3. F bomb use is a warning
4. No black cocks allowed (new rule called the Iveybusta)



I don't care much for the f bomb rule, because unless a player is berating another or being belligerent, who cares? We're not sitting around knitting sweaters and drinking tea. It's for money so there's going to be good and bad emotions. Secondly, why do you care so much about there not being a copy of the rules? I guarantee if you go anywhere and ask for a copy, no one will have a drawer full of them. Thirdly, Hellmuth and other name players are going to get away with things others aren't, that's just because most of them are friends with the directors, take them to dinner/parties, or tip well when they win. That's just a fact of life. I'm sure the director thought you were being douchey about it and just dismissed you. It sounds to me like you're making a big deal about nothing, but I'm just going by what I read on the thread. Possibly to TILT! Hellmuth, but I think it actually TILTED! you instead. If you really want something to worry about, ask them why every WSOP tournament chip count is off. Ask them where the extra $2 million in chips at the final table from a couple years ago came from. You seem easily tiltable, and to continue with this state of mind will only do you harm in upcoming events. If you can't let it go for some reason, don't play anymore events, take your girl, 2 dimes, go to the beach for a couple weeks and relax.



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and obviously, this is who Hellmuth was talking too:




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The rules only apply to the non-named pros that guys like Hellmuth and Negreanu approved ahead of time. The rules are still "apparently" wrong on the site. I guarantee you other people are getting penalized for this. Why?? Because it actually STILL IS THE FUCKING RULE. But the guys who feel they are "poker" have a different set of rules. You should either deal with that, or stop playing these tournaments which are made for just a few people anyway. These guys get infinite coverage while ESPN and Harrahs helps prop their latest bullshit book or website to make them even more money. Its built into the system. Once you realize and accept that, you will be happier.. I promise you.
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The rules only apply to the non-named pros that guys like Hellmuth and Negreanu approved ahead of time. The rules are still "apparently" wrong on the site. I guarantee you other people are getting penalized for this. Why?? Because it actually STILL IS THE FUCKING RULE. But the guys who feel they are "poker" have a different set of rules. You should either deal with that, or stop playing these tournaments which are made for just a few people anyway. These guys get infinite coverage while ESPN and Harrahs helps prop their latest bullshit book or website to make them even more money. Its built into the system. Once you realize and accept that, you will be happier.. I promise you.



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Micon, file a report with Gaming. Worth a shot since it's pretty reasonable to expect to know the rules of an event you are playing in.
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Micon, just let it go unless you want to be barred.



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There is only one solution now


This is true..... stop patronizing Harrah's. Every tournament sells out. Who're the fucking idiots?

In any case, if i were playing the tournaments at this point, i would literally stay on my cell and call every single person i knew every time i was in a big pot......

Why not?
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like the internet, the wsop is serious business indeed


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