An open letter to Dan Druff, NWP = DEAD

An open letter to Dan Druff

I just listened to the radio show and I wanted to respond to your question of “why did you leave nwp?”

I understand that NWP is now a semi instead of a sports car. There are lots of users, it’s a decent sized site and its tough to please everybody. I think the first thing to happen is that the old school users got upset when a bunch of retards came in and started posting more and more ridiculous, retarded shit. It got to the point where nobody wanted to post stuff about their lives since people were bringing stuff into real life, black cocks were being pshopped onto everybody, and it became less about making your e-friends laugh and more about being offensive at every turn.

As NWP grew, it became less and less like what it used to be. The core problem is that an uncensored site full of shenanigans can never truly appeal to the masses. If you create a place where anything and everything can be said, expect most people to be offended. As ownership tried to commercialize the site and make it more masses-friendly, you basically told the core group of users to go fuck themselves, that what we had spent years and years building was now nothing like how it used to be, and many of our friends were now banned from shooting off.

I was one of the most vocal proponents of the VIP, but I think that was the beginning of the end right there. As soon as the core group of posters had no reason to post personal stuff in shooting off, it became a complete wasteland. I will freely admit that this was a bad idea looking back on it, but it certainly wasn’t recognized and dealt with by the powers that be. I don’t really care about the business aspect of running NWP, just the funny stuff my e-friends posted on there.

I understand wanting to get rid of the black cocks etc. I thought NWP was getting worse and worse as well, but the solutions that were introduced were done in such a terribly offensive manner, in a “fuck you” type of way. I think that other things contributed to it getting unreadable as well, namely allowing a handful of terrible posters to post in every thread as much as they wanted. Nobody has any interest in what those retards have to say, and in the old days they were the minority, but now they are the majority.

Post-limiting was a terrible idea as well. Why would you want to limit someone like IndianaSlim? If you actually read his posts, over half of them (an incredible ratio on nwp) were witty and clever. Did he constantly mock Micon to no end? Yes. Did Micon deserve it? Yes. Surely there could have been a better use of this feature to limit actual terrible posters that completely diluted the quality of content (serial fail etc). Vwls was the only mod that kept track of what was going on, that was in tune with the core posters of the site, and now that she’s gone, it’s clear that nobody will have the poster’s interests in mind.

The real reason I left is that instead of creative, innovative solutions to problems, it was all terrible administrating done at random by Micon who had NO CLUE what was going on. He would frequently demean the posters on his own site by being completely rude to them, acting as if he is better than them and they are completely worthless to him. Why would anyone want to contribute somewhere when the main benefactor is basically treating you like scum? In addition to all of these things, the core decision making in Micon’s head has clearly not changed. He still doesn’t understand why this has happened, or what he has done wrong. Everybody makes mistakes, but smart people learn from theirs and Micon clearly hasn’t learned a thing from this fiasco.

I understand the firing of Vwls, since she was going against what her bosses were telling her to do. However, suggesting that Micon is like any real-world boss is laughable. Any paying job in the real world that was run the way Micon apparently communicates with his mods would be quit right away. You can’t be “hands-off/hands-on”. Either let the mods make the decisions and back away, making only major decisions yourself, or actually read the fucking forums. How the firing was handled is a prime example of the horrible decisions that Micon makes that you have to handle/clean up.

Druff, I wish it was possible to separate you from the terrible practices of Micon. I have always enjoyed your posts and think you are an interesting personality to read on the interwebs. Unfortunately, Micon does love NWP and will never realize that he is the limiting factor on this site.

I think its too bad that you guys managed to fuck everything here up. Like you said on the show, its very tough to get a lot of traffic to a forum. I highly doubt you will get your core posters back, since the only things missing from Boris are your posts and some poker pros that likely won’t jump ship (O comes to mind). The other 50k users a month are pretty much worthless to the regulars and don’t provide much content.

I think its probably too late to save NWP, since Micon will always run it and he makes terrible decisions and acts like a douche.

Even though I'm probably one of the newer posters you despise, I have to applaud that post.

As to your gloomy conclusion- you're probably right, though there's just a small chance Druff will be able to carry on bitch slapping sense into micon.

I think the beginning of the end of NWP was when I was denied VIP access

For shame, niggers. For shame.

This is pretty well said DFS, but nwp is far from being unsalvageable.

One of the reasons why I came to this site was for the "star" quality content it provided. Ridiculous allegations against poker pros, and other scandalous stories.

Boring78 won't be able to provide it, and will only leech the story if posted here on nwp.

Micon...Druff...Neverwin... (core owners) all know other respectable pros, and I think we're all fascinated with the ridiculous stories they post on here.

(If true) That story about Micon turning down 20K from full tilt because he wanted to represent NWP was pretty solid. Why the fuck would he want to tank this site? He's made some mistakes, alright whatever.

People are way too hung up blaming problems and pointing fingers and shit.

Micons made mistakes, Druff's made mistakes, Fckvwls made mistakes. Ok. The arguing on the NWP radio was just a roundabout arguing that led absolutely nowhere.

Now it's just time to move on, forgive and forget. Make the site better. Whatever it takes.. and Druff seems to be taking the right steps to come back.


:internetseriousbusiness
:whogivesafuck

Pretty gay post and a waste of time.

:seacrestout

You don't understand.

There aren't going to be any more snap...

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... on the part of Micon or anyone else.

Everything is going to be well-thought-out and carefully considered, especially when it comes to major changes or actions against site regulars.

If your fear in returning is based upon Micon "acting like a douche and fucking everything up", then I can assure you that this won't happen.

If you simply don't want to return in order to punish Micon, then there's nothing I can do to stop you, but I feel that course of action is foolish.

Somebody removed my sig, was that well-thought-out and carefully considered? Or was it just Micon doing whatever the hell he wanted to? He never removed the Miri fat friend sig I had for 2 weeks and neither did you. So what's the problem? Does the Southern Belle reality hurt that much?

Hey Obama, my thermostat is at 72 degrees you mother fucker

Alot of the old school NWP'ers are now at boris, including me. I cant say I wont lurk or post every now and then but in no way do I feel any love for NWP anymore. I guess the end for me was this pm exchange with Micon back in Oct.




I hope all is well with ya. Any reason in particular I was booted out of the real life forum? No big deal if you dont want me in and all. I was just wondering why I had access for three months and then get the boot all of a sudden.


Good luck at the tables,



Shawn



actually I booted everyone but me... I'll be adding a few back later... Going to be re-doing the forum, will let you know


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Now if this would have been true I would have had no problems with it but it was an all out lie. Micon just wanted to toss me for some reason. Be a man and say I didnt want you in the forum. Remember Micon I am the guy that took a taxi all over Vegas as you were sitting at the final table trying to get you a hat that would show "NWP" up better on camera. Micon busted out before I got back (met them in the long hallway to the amazon room). Dustin shipped me 100 and took the hat (Dustin had offered me 1k if I could get the hat made). I paid 25 for the hat and about 40 for taxi fares to the three places i went). I have to say it was a sweet hat. I had love for NWP and was willing to do anything I could to help you "blow up" but as always you just take your members for granted and shit all over us.

Ive met many people on NWP that I hophade to have as life time friends. People that have done alot for me as I have tried to do for others. I wish NWP wouldnt have went in the direction that it has. I do think it is too late to "turn it around". What's done is done. I cant say I wont lurk here or even post here anymore but it will never be the "NWP of old" again.

Actually they did boot everyone from real life, I think I asked vwls to put me back in when it was done, I think that may be more a case of Micon forgetting to re-add you, and it's not like there is major activity in there asking who's missing etc. So if that's your only grievence UGA I'd be inclined to put it down to standard stoner laziness/forgetfullness and move on.

I for one did not leave NWP but was banned and rightfully so, I missed the brunt of the off the wall pictures and links to ridiculous sites that nobody really wants to see. However I did catch a few here and there, for me its not enough to leave and occasionally can be amusing to trick people into looking at something gross but to do son 30x/day is not fun anymore.

I understand that nobody really wants to be censored in life or on a messageboard thats supposed to be known for its uncensored topics. I think that the aspects and drama are what really bring attention to NWP; the rollings, general tilt and drama. Also all the flaming is awesome. When the majority of the topics spread are dick pictures then it becomes unappealing to a point. I'm not saying censor anything but its more of a poster problem then anything, I mean how many instances have there been where a flame thread gets deleted specifically one about Micon, Druff or NW? I just saw someone with a picture of Martha picking at her recent "webcam" debacle. That's being especially uncensored, do you think Micon wants that shit to be on here between every post?

The point I am making in this book I just wrote is lets keep it uncensored but dont take a dive off the deepend into insanity.

Another point to make is Boris78 isnt spammed with black dicks everywhere and outrageous pictures. I'm not really the Michael of Boris but im pretty sure it was never really like that.