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WSOP Overall Standings Todd Witteles #1

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post Jul 5 2005, 08:02 AM
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World Series of Poker Overall Standings

1 Todd Witteles Las Vegas, NV 2,080 2 $463,195
2 Mark Seif Incline Village, NV 1,920 2 $799,950
3 Allen Cunningham Ventura, CA 1,902 4 $1,006,935
4 Todd Brunson El Paso, TX 1,808 3 $401,415
5 Quinn Do Seattle, WA 1,732 2 $300,440
6 Charidimos 'Harry' Demetriou London, United Kingdom 1,520 2 $287,765
7 Andre Boyer Las Vegas, NV 1,440 1 $682,810
7 T.J. Cloutier Richardson, TX 1,440 1 $660,080
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post Jul 5 2005, 08:14 AM
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Are these standings different from the Toyota Points Leaderboard that Negreanu won last year?...I remember reading something on Cardplayer the other day that Cyndi Violette had taken over the Toyota WSOP Points lead and she is not even on this list.
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post Jul 5 2005, 08:17 AM
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I think Dirty B said it best in another thread:

I don't understand how Allen Cunningham is in third. Look at this record:

Omaha High-Low 7th place for $42,110
No-Limit Hold'em Short Handed 29th for $8,490
Pot-Limit Omaha 4th for $141,245
Pot-Limit Hold'em 4th for $89,685
No-Limit Hold'em 1st for $725,405

Four final tables in four different games and a W for 725k? That's really crazy.
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post Jul 5 2005, 08:22 AM
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Maybe he has played in like every event possible so they couldn't give him a higher ranking then someone who has never finished worst then 3rd in a WSOP event.
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post Jul 5 2005, 09:13 AM
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Yeah....no disrespect intended toward Druff...his accomplishments at this year's WSOP have been amazing. Just was curious how they came up with the numbers and if the Toyota Points system was the same, to see if he was looking at adding a new truck to his already hefty payday.
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post Jul 5 2005, 09:30 AM
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Maybe he has played in like every event possible so they couldn't give him a higher ranking then someone who has never finished worst then 3rd in a WSOP event.


So then if Druff wants to win he has to sit the main event out
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post Jul 5 2005, 09:45 AM
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What about Seif as well?

He has won a tournament with over a 1000 entrants and won another...2 wins and who knows how he finished other than that why isn't he first...makes no sense. :?

All good for Dan but still wacky.
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post Jul 5 2005, 10:04 AM
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Ya I dont agree with it either but this really provides some incentive to enter the main event. A new truck would be sweet.
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post Jul 5 2005, 10:36 AM
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the ammount of the buy in matters as well if its 3k its worth more than 1k
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post Jul 5 2005, 11:16 AM
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http://www.cardplayer.com/wsop_of_the_year/

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post Jul 5 2005, 01:16 PM
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I think the way they score it has alot to do with the # of people entered. 3 of Allen Cunningham's final tables were 5k entry events but only had 1 to 2 hundred people entered.
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post Jul 5 2005, 01:27 PM
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http://www.cardplayer.com/player_of_the_year/poycriteria.php
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post Jul 5 2005, 01:34 PM
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Will we see Todd entering some more Limit HE events to try and hold down the #1 spot in the WSOP player standings and perhaps even advance in the player of the year standings?
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post Jul 5 2005, 01:40 PM
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Well, according to the WSOP official site, besides todays NL 2-7 event the only tournament left is the main event. Although I thought before the whole thing started I saw some events listed for august, guess they cancelled them.
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post Jul 6 2005, 08:02 AM
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I admit that the system they use is unfair, but I didn't create it!

Without getting into details, the points system gives a disproportionate bias to middle-sized tournaments, while screwing the really big ones. It also gives fewer points than you'd expect for winning, as opposed to 2nd or 3rd place.

This means that two winners doesn't automatically put you ahead of a person with a 1st and 3rd in bigger events, and winning a giant event (like the WSOP) doesn't guarantee you WSOP of the Year status.

Basically, if the final 3 WSOP tables contain 27 unknowns (in the sense that they have few or no cardplayer points), then I will be the WSOP of the Year winner.

Not likely, but it could happen.
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post Jul 6 2005, 08:04 AM
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Basically, if the final 3 WSOP tables contain 27 unknowns (in the sense that they have few or no cardplayer points), then I will be the WSOP of the Year winner.


what'd be better is if in contained 25 unkowns, 1 dan druff and 1 neverwin.
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post Jul 6 2005, 08:11 AM
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What does this years POY get
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post Jul 6 2005, 08:25 AM
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What does this years POY get


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post Jul 6 2005, 08:29 AM
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Now I especially hope I win.
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post Jul 6 2005, 09:54 AM
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How many points will the lucky SOB that wins the main event get??????
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