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2 YR OLD FILLIES
Total Purse: $2,000,000 Distance: 1 1/16 Miles Post Time: 12:30 p.m. ETPost Horse Jockey Trainer Track M/L
1 Dreaming of Anna Rene Douglas Wayne M. Catalano 4-1
2 Sutra Mike Luzzi Michael Stidham 20-1
3 Cash Included Corey Nakatani Craig Dollase 3-1
4 Octave Garrett Gomez Todd A. Pletcher 6-1
5 She's Included Victor Espinoza Christopher S. Paasch 15-1
6 Bel Air Beauty Fernando Jara Frank L. Brothers 8-1
7 Cotton Blossom John Velazquez Todd A. Pletcher 10-1
8 Lilly Carson Cornelio Velasquez Ralph E. Nicks 30-1
9 Adhrhythm Edgar Prado Edward Plesa Jr. 12-1
10 Her Majesty Julien Leparoux Patrick L. Biancone 10-1
11 Satulagi John Egan J. S. Moore 20-1
12 Appealing Zophie Shaun Bridgmohan Scott Blasi 10-1
13 Quick Little Miss Jon Court Melvin F. Stute 30-1
14 Gatorize Mark Guidry Helen Pitts 30-1


Bessemer Trust Breeders' Cup Juvenile
Total Purse: $2,000,000 Distance: 1 1/16 Miles Post Time: 1:10 p.m. ET Post Horse Jockey Trainer Track M/L
1 Street Sense Calvin Borel Carl A. Nafzger 20-1
2 Stormello Kent Desormeaux William L. Currin 6-1
3 Scat Daddy John Velazquez Todd A. Pletcher 4-1
4 King of the Roxy Edgar Prado Todd A. Pletcher 12-1
5 C P West Rafael Bejarano Nicholas P. Zito 15-1
6 Principle Secret Victor Espinosa Christopher S. Paasch 5-1
7 Great Hunter Corey Nakatani Doug O'Neill 9-2
8 Teuflesberg Robby Albarado Jamie Sanders 15-1
9 Circular Quay Garrett Gomez Todd A. Pletcher 5-2
10 Pegasus Wind Mike Luzzi D. Wayne Lukas 15-1
11 Got the Last Laugh Rene Douglas William I. Mott 20-1
12 U D Ghetto Mike Smith Anthony Reinstedler 50-1
13 Malt Magic Jon Court Bob Baffert 30-1
14 Skip Code Patrick Husbands Mark E. Casse 50-1


Emirates Airline Breeders' Cup Filly & Mare Turf
Total Purse: $2,000,000 Distance: 1 3/8 Miles Post Time: 1:55 p.m. ET Post Horse Jockey Trainer Track M/L
1 Dancing Edie Corey Nakatani Craig Dollase 30-1
2 Ouija Board (GB) (*09) Frankie Dettori Edward Dunlop 8-5
3 Mauralakana (FR) Julien Leparoux Patrick L. Biancone 15-1
4 Film Maker Ramon Dominguez H. Graham Motion 6-1
5 Honey Ryder John Velazquez Todd A. Pletcher 4-1
6 Quiet Royal Olivier Peslier Todd A. Pletcher 30-1
7 Wait a While Garrett Gomez Todd A. Pletcher 3-1
8 My Typhoon (IRE) Robby Albarado William I. Mott 20-1
9 Satwa Queen (FR) (*09) Thierry Thulliez Jean de Roualle 12-1
10 Germance Christophe Soumillon Jean-Claude Rouget 12-1


TVG Breeders' Cup Sprint
Total Purse: $2,000,000 Distance: 6 Furlongs Post Time: 2:35 p.m. ET Post Horse Jockey Trainer Track M/L
1 Thor's Echo Corey Nakatani Doug O'Neill 10-1
2 Friendly Island Ramon Dominguez Todd A. Pletcher 30-1
3 Lewis Michael Rene Douglas Wayne M. Catalano 30-1
4 Henny Hughes John Velazquez Kiaran P. McLaughlin 2-1
5 Areyoutalkintome Victor Espinoza Doug O'Neill 30-1
6 Bordonaro Patrick Valenzuela William Spawr 3-1
7 Nightmare Affair (*09) Edgar Prado Manuel J. Azpurua 30-1
8 Pomeroy Eddie Castro Martin D. Wolfson 8-1
9 Too Much Bling Garrett Gomez Bob Baffert 10-1
10 War Front Jose Santos H. Allen Jerkens 12-1
11 Siren Lure Alex Solis Arthur Sherman 10-1
12 Malibu Mint Kyle Kaenel James R Chapman 30-1
13 Attila's Storm Cornelio Velasquez Richard E. Schosberg 20-1
14 Kelly's Landing Rafael Bejarano Eddie Kenneally 20-1


NetJets Breeders' Cup Mile
Total Purse: $2,000,000 Distance: 1 Mile Post Time: 3:15 p.m. ET Post Horse Jockey Trainer Track M/L
1 Ad Valorem Jamie Spencer Aidan P. O'Brien 20-1
2 Silent Name (JPN) Victor Espinosa Gary Mandella 20-1
3 Araafa (IRE) (*09) John Velazquez Jeremy Noseda 9-2
4 Sleeping Indian (GB) Alex Solis John H.M. Gosden 20-1
5 Free Thinking Jose Santos Douglas W. Danner 15-1
6 Echo of Light (GB) Frankie Dettori Saeed bin Suroor 10-1
7 Aragorn (IRE) Corey Nakatani Neil D. Drysdale 5-1
8 Badge of Silver Edgar Prado Robert J. Frankel 12-1
9 Rob Roy Ramon Dominguez Sir Michael R. Stoute 15-1
10 Miesque's Approval Eddie Castro Martin D. Wolfson 10-1
11 Super Frolic Shaun Bridgmohan Scott Blasi 50-1
12 Gorella (FR) (*09) Julien Leparoux Patrick L. Biancone 4-1
13 Librettist Christophe Soumillon Saeed bin Suroor 6-1
14 Aussie Rules Garrett Gomez Aidan P. O'Brien 10-1


Emirates Airline Breeders' Cup Distaff
Total Purse: $2,000,000 Distance: 1 1/8 Miles Post Time: 3:55 p.m. ET Post Horse Jockey Trainer Track M/L
1 Round Pond Edgar Prado Michael R. Matz 15-1
2 Pine Island Javier Castellano Claude R. McGaughey III 5-1
3 Healthy Addiction Victor Espinoza John W. Sadler 10-1
4 Sharp Lisa Patrick Valenzuela Doug O'Neill 50-1
5 Lemons Forever Mark Guidry Dallas Stewart 30-1
6 Spun Sugar (*09) Mike Luzzi Todd A. Pletcher 10-1
7 Fleet Indian Jose Santos Todd A. Pletcher 8-5
8 Baghdaria Rafael Bejarano Thomas M. Amoss 30-1
9 Pool Land John Velazquez Todd A. Pletcher 10-1
10 Hollywood Story David Flores John A. Shirreffs 20-1
11 Bushfire Alex Solis Eddie Kenneally 30-1
12 Asi Siempre (*09) Julien Leparoux Patrick L. Biancone 15-1
13 Happy Ticket Garrett Gomez Andy Leggio 12-1
14 Balletto (UAE) Corey Nakatani Tom Albertrani 6-1


John Deere Breeders' Cup Turf
Total Purse: $3,000,000 Distance: 1 1/2 Miles Post Time: 4:35 p.m. ET Post Horse Jockey Trainer Track M/L
1 Go Deputy Olivier Peslier Todd A. Pletcher 6-1
2 T. H. Approval Alex Solis Eduardo Inda 15-1
3 Icy Atlantic Mike Luzzi Todd A. Pletcher 30-1
4 Scorpion (IRE) Mick Kinane Aidan P. O'Brien 6-1
5 Rush Bay Rafael Bejarano Thomas M. Amoss 20-1
6 Cacique (IRE) Edgar Prado Robert J. Frankel 4-1
7 Hurricane Run (IRE) Christophe Soumillon Andre Fabre 3-1
8 Better Talk Now Ramon Dominguez H. Graham Motion 12-1
9 Red Rocks (IRE) Frankie Dettori Brian Joseph Meehan 10-1
10 English Channel John Velazquez Todd A. Pletcher 7-2
11 Silverfoot Mark Guidry Dallas Stewart 30-1


Breeders' Cup Classic - Powered by Dodge
Total Purse: $5,000,000 Distance: 1 1/4 Miles Post Time: 5:20 p.m. ET Post Horse Jockey Trainer Track M/L
1 Brother Derek Alex Solis Dan Hendricks 30-1
2 Premium Tap Edgar Prado John C. Kimmel 30-1
3 Bernardini Javier Castellano Tom Albertrani Even
4 George Washington (IRE) Mick Kinane Aidan P. O'Brien 10-1
5 Lawyer Ron Patrick Valenzuela Todd A. Pletcher 20-1
6 Perfect Drift Garrett Gomez Murray W. Johnson 20-1
7 David Junior Jamie Spencer Brian Joseph Meehan 10-1
8 Lava Man Corey Nakatani Doug O'Neill 6-1
9 Giacomo Mike Smith John A. Shirreffs 30-1
10 Flower Alley John Velazquez Todd A. Pletcher 30-1
11 Invasor (ARG) Fernando Jara Kiaran P. McLaughlin 5-1
12 Suave Kent Desormeaux Paul J. McGee 30-1
13 Sun King Rafael Bejarano Nicholas P. Zito 15-1

juvenile fillies....CAsh Included. first or second.....nakatani regular rider for this fit young filly....nakatani is the son in law to the dollace trained filly...usually low priced race fits the bill..........8/5/14....velasquez....aussmen may fill the tri bill underneath tri and box exactas.

Bessemer Trust Breeders' Cup Juvenile a little worried here but Pletcher seems best to score here as usual....but which pletcher entry..???
try Circular quay.....troubled before may be best...with the 11 6 8 in exotics......Mott overdue with the babies on the 11 looks like a sleeper

Emirates Airline Breeders' Cup Filly & Mare Turf
Total Purse: $2,000,000 Distance: 1 3/8 Miles Post Time: 1:55 p.m. ET Post Horse Jockey Trainer Track M/L
Ouija board looks like her usually beastly self...but Ive been in love with Wait a While and think i can cash a ticket with her first or second...backing her up in 3 rd with Oujia in a wheel firrst /second. with a 10/3 and wheel all combo's tucking an all in there somewhere..potential here for a pop score........top euro donk on ten...biancone trained three well intended


TVG Breeders' Cup Sprint
Total Purse: $2,000,000 Distance: 6 Furlongs Post Time: 2:35 p.m. ET Post

what a nasty race this is..nastier when watched ..these freight trains will be busting each other balls at a phenonemal clip...arty sherman/solis combo a winning one in SOCAL and i translate that in a wide open affair.......Too much bling will have much to say in the outcome..and will use the bling/siren lure combo in tri wheels with a randoms...speed fails..andsome one will finish up unexpectedl

NetJets Breeders' Cup Mile


godsen trained sleeping indian my longshot choice for a board finish and maybe a win at 20/1 ML...godsen a hidden gem at the Breeders cup with limited starters and mainly focusing on this race alone....3 for 9 first second or third with limited runners in this race..............Gorella the only female in this race is a Demon monstrosity who could have chosen to run against the girls only..but chose the boys.....nuff said...ill use these two with various others

Emirates Airline Breeders' Cup Distaff
hopefully things ease up a bit and get easier.....tons of angles here and plenty of speedy fillies to quit at the top of the stretch..tossing a coin...wait...ok....12/13 wheel with many/ with many and reverse....confused by this race but will use the 12/13


John Deere Breeders' Cup Turf

O'brien more than adequate on another classy wide open event...ill take the older Obrien trained scorpion in wheels with field first and second and inthe picks with bernadini.........will not be a single though in the pick six / or pick four

Breeders' Cup Classic - Powered by Dodge


TOns of angles to try and beat bernadini...but will stick with him at least in my pick fours and six........perfect drift the wily veteran a churchill downs legend has never been off the ticket when racing there but can get a bit disinterested in the stretch..ithink he can blow up the ticket with a finish today......also..sun king/invasor/premium tap(prado on board, ran down many a speedy horses in the long stretch..church is a long stretch ..must use on exotics().....and i guess the lava man mixed in on a few...although i dislike him......3 13 11 7 6 2.....shake em up in your exotics too for that six digit payoff...gl.........

Sum all that up in the English language before the races tomorrow plz.

I saw Wait a While's last race at Santa Anita and have her as my banker of the day. Bernadini has been impressive but I like the chance of an upset in this race. If Bernadini has an off day and George Washington doesnt take to the dirt the show, place on a closer like Giacomo could be huge.

Sorry I didnt post the post positions and was enjoying some grand marnier while handicapping last night @@.......................

2 YR OLD FILLIES
3 with the 8 5 14 with all tri wheel 3 with all with the 8 5 14 ..and WP on 3..and 8 5 14 1 4 over 3 in exacta saver ticket

Bessemer Trust Breeders' Cup Juvenile
not going to deep in this conundrum but leaning towards circular quay #9, with the 11 6 8 ..and small wp on 9 and 11...exacta wheel 9 with all,

Emirates Airline Breeders' Cup Filly & Mare Turf

2, 3 , 7 , 10 ex box....tri wheel 7 10 with all with 3 9 and 3 9 small win bets to back up

TVG Breeders' Cup Sprint

11 9 8 6 ex/tri box ....wp on 11

NetJets Breeders' Cup Mile

4 12 13 3 8.....wheel and box.....sleeping indian and gorella and badge of silver my tops in exotics...

Emirates Airline Breeders' Cup Distaff
tough race for me..im going to the outside post s 12 13 both to win
mix in the 2 first second with the 12 13 then use the all button



John Deere Breeders' Cup Turf


using the 4 5 in exacta box and 4 first and second in tri wheels ..longshot possible is the 5....might even use the all all 5 tri...all 5 all

ok..gotta run...im using the above picks and some other euro trained horses in my pick 3's and 4's and pick 6....that work is not done yet but you have a start......good luck all

last but not least a friend just emailed me these nuggets of info....info is your friend...say hi to him...good luck..

Juvenile Fillies facts:
--Twelve of the last 16 juvenile Fillies winners, including the last four, finished first in their final pre; 15 of the last 16 captured one of their previous two starts.
--Ten of the last 16 juvenile fillies, including the five of the last eight, earned a triple-digit BRIS Speed rating in their orevious start; only five had never earned a triple-digit speed rating.
--No wire-to-wire wins have been recorded in Juvenile fillies history.
--Favorites are 12 for 22 in the juvenile fillies; 15 winners have returned less than $10; 7 have paid more than $10.

Juvenile facts:
--Eleven of the last 16 juvenile winners, including five of the last six, finished first in the there final prep; 15 of the last 16 winners capatured at least one of there two previous starts.
--Last nine american-based juvenile winners failed to earn a triple digit BRIS speed rating inthe final (four were 93 or lower); last six juvenile winners had never captured a triple-digit speed figure.
--No juvenile winner has earned triple-digit BRIS speed ratings in the last two starts.
--Three have led wire to wire in juvenile history.
--Favorites are 8-22 in the juvenile; 11 winners have returned less than $10; 11 have paid more than $10.

Filly & Mare Turf facts:
--Five of seven filly & mare turf winners lost there final prep; only one winner with a two race win streak
--Three of the four american based winners failed to earn a triple-digit speed rating in their previous two starts.
--Only one wire-to-wire win in filly & mare history.
--Favorite are two-for seven in the filly & mare; three winners have returned less than $10; four paid more than $10..

Distaff facts:
--Fourteen of the last 16 distaff winners have recorded a triple-digit BRIS speed rating in their previous start.
--Ten of the last 11 distaff winners have earned a speed rating of at least 104 in one of their previous three outings
--Five have led wire-to-wire in distaff history
--Favorites are 11 of 22 in the distaff; 16 winners have returned less than $10; six paid over $10.

Turf facts:
--Last five turf winners lost their final prep race; only once in the last 15 years has the turf winner won his two previous starts.
--European shippers have won or dead heated for the win in seven of the last nine years.
--Every american-based winner except Johar(dead-heated) in the last 15 years has earned a triple-digit bris speed rating in the final prep.
--Only one horse has ever led wire-to-wire.
--Favorites are 8 for 22 in the turf; 11 winner have returned less than $10; 12 have paid more than $10.

Mile facts:
--Fifteen of the last 16 miler winners either finished first or second in their final prep; seven of the last nine were exiting a win.
--American-based horses have accounted for eight of the last 11 mile victories.
--Only one wire to wire victory has been recorded in the mile history.
--Favorites are 7 for 22 in the mile; 10 winners returned less than $10; 11 have paid more than $10.

Sprint Facts:
--Last 8 sprint winners, and 9 of the last 10, have earned a bris net speed rating of 105; in one of their two previous starts.
--Six of the 8 sprint winners have had at least a 110 bris speed rating in the last prep; 7 of the last 8 in the final two preps.
--Only one american-based winner in the last 16 years has failed to earn a triple-digit bris net speed figure in the previous start.
--The last 11 sprinit winners have finished first in one of their two final prep races; seven of the 9 were exiting a win.
--Four have led wire-to-wire in sprint history
--Favorites are 5 for 22 in the sprint; eight returned less than $10; 14 have paid more than $10.

Classic facts:
--Ten of the last 11 classic winners Pleasantly Perfect the exception) have recorded at least a 105 bris speed figure in one of their previous three starts.
--Last 6 winners and 9 of the last 11, have earned a triple digit bris speed rating in their final 3 prepss.
--Eight of the last 11 winners finished first in their final prep.
--Only 2 horses have led wire to wire in Classic history
--Favories are 7 for 22 in the classic; eight winners have returned less than $10 and 14 have paid over $10..

I had Zophie and Cash there-not good times

Gotta make some adjustments, first 2 races before the BC and the race that just went off were all won from the front, tough to see if this trend continues but definitely looking like it may be a factor for these first few races

Im gonna go 2-9-5-3 boxed a few ways on the Juvenile, but Im just hoping for value here with the 2 up top in a few and hope the 5 gets into my Tris, I wanna write off the last race for the 9, but these damn 2 year olds always kill me, especially with the 9 coming from deep which would go against early track trends from today.


Damn my terps making thier game interesting distracting me

Looking ahead after 2 ugly races

F&M
Ive always been a Film Maker fan-hoping this is the year, ouija board probably the best here and has to be on your ticket,
I think im gonna go
4-2-all here and hope to steal a win and a price on the bottom with other film maker exactas

Sprint
I like Pomeroy here, no clue how I am going to bet it, but with Henney Hughes in some way
8-4 box and 8/4/6/11 tri boxed

Mile-
7-8-12 boxed up, dont trust gorella to beat the boys but should be in the money

Distaff-
Much like Film Maker earlier, Im a big Spun Sugar supporter, gonna mix it with Pine Island and see what happens
6/2boxed and try to find some decent value underneath

Turf
I just dont like this race at all honestly, I have no clue where to go on it and ill probably be chasing losses by here

Classic-
Probably cant beat Bernardini, Lava Man may be able to do it if anyone can. Perfect Drift and Sun King for value, Invasor I am just unsure of how to include him but he has to be mentioned. Dont know how im gonna bet it quite yet, depends how bad the rest of the day goes.

A Good day but not a great day according to the pick 3's and superfecta's.....Giacomo bent me over the rail and fucked me on a beautiful superfecta, had the tri and exacta many times, happy ticket was good for me in distaff thanks to disqualification, but ill take it and circular quay exacta many a couple of times with the all button on top and P/S......till the next time