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NFL Week 17, Please, Dallas & SD, don't shit the bed

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post Dec 31 2008, 02:38 PM
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post Jan 11 2009, 02:59 AM
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I was never arguing for wanting a high total, BTW. I know that a low total is better for teasers. I was stating that, despite the total being high and it being a road game, it was still a road underdog of +1.5, which falls in the Wong teaser parameters.

Just because Dallas shit the bed big time doesn't change that.


Druff, you are wrong. Ask Reggiman. He will confirm that you are wrong. Then ask icfishies.

Road teams are a fucking NO NO. Period. If you absolutely HAVE to have another team for a teaser leg, use a road team with a total around 40 or less.

Really restraining myself here, but when I hear you talk about what "falls into the Wong Teaser parameters" I have to laugh because you obviously have no idea what you are talking about. Seriously. Just stop. Don't make me bump all the horrible, godawful, nowhere near "wong teaser" bets that you posted this season. Jesus in the manager knows there are plenty to choose from.

And if this:

"Just because Dallas shit the bed big time doesn't change that"

is your way of accusing me of being a results oriented sportsbettor youre barkin up the wrong fuckin tree brah


Late response by me, but here it goes anyway...

I was new at teasers this season, so I made some mistakes at the beginning of the year. I admit that.

I also understand how low total games are better than high total games. That makes sense.

However, you are flat wrong in telling me that road games can't be +EV for teasers. Reggiman has complained about road FAVORITES before, but Dallas wasn't a road favorite.

I will agree that home teasers are better than road teasers, but to say that road teasers should be avoided at all times completely contradicts everything I've read and heard about teasers.

Good luck finding 3 teams to tease in a given week if you are only sticking to home teams within the proper parameters, with low totals.

Next season try posting your own teasers so you can show me the application of your strategies.
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post Jan 11 2009, 10:13 AM
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QUOTE(DanDruff @ Jan 11 2009, 05:59 AM) *
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QUOTE(DanDruff @ Dec 31 2008, 12:31 PM) *
I was never arguing for wanting a high total, BTW. I know that a low total is better for teasers. I was stating that, despite the total being high and it being a road game, it was still a road underdog of +1.5, which falls in the Wong teaser parameters.

Just because Dallas shit the bed big time doesn't change that.


Druff, you are wrong. Ask Reggiman. He will confirm that you are wrong. Then ask icfishies.

Road teams are a fucking NO NO. Period. If you absolutely HAVE to have another team for a teaser leg, use a road team with a total around 40 or less.

Really restraining myself here, but when I hear you talk about what "falls into the Wong Teaser parameters" I have to laugh because you obviously have no idea what you are talking about. Seriously. Just stop. Don't make me bump all the horrible, godawful, nowhere near "wong teaser" bets that you posted this season. Jesus in the manager knows there are plenty to choose from.

And if this:

"Just because Dallas shit the bed big time doesn't change that"

is your way of accusing me of being a results oriented sportsbettor youre barkin up the wrong fuckin tree brah


Late response by me, but here it goes anyway...

I was new at teasers this season, so I made some mistakes at the beginning of the year. I admit that.

I also understand how low total games are better than high total games. That makes sense.

However, you are flat wrong in telling me that road games can't be +EV for teasers. Reggiman has complained about road FAVORITES before, but Dallas wasn't a road favorite.

I will agree that home teasers are better than road teasers, but to say that road teasers should be avoided at all times completely contradicts everything I've read and heard about teasers.

Good luck finding 3 teams to tease in a given week if you are only sticking to home teams within the proper parameters, with low totals.

Next season try posting your own teasers so you can show me the application of your strategies.


Druff, shut the fuck up.

IN ICfishies article he says he only takes home teams in teasers.

In my convos with Reggiman he says he only takes home teams in teasers.

I posted my own teasers every week for a while this season. Go look at all the threads titled NFL Week 9, etc.

Shut the fuck up about shit you know next to nothing about 1x. This is a thread about NFL betting, not limit holdem, not stiffing poor people who depend on your tips to survive. By all appearances you are an abject failure at sportsbetting. So shut the the fuck up. There are infinite retarded horrible posts you have made in this forum. You may know more now than you did week 1 but you still don't know nearly as much as you think you do. Take my word for it and shut the fuck up.


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post Jan 11 2009, 10:27 AM
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QUOTE(dual @ Jan 11 2009, 01:13 PM) *
QUOTE(DanDruff @ Jan 11 2009, 05:59 AM) *
QUOTE(dual @ Dec 31 2008, 02:27 PM) *
QUOTE(DanDruff @ Dec 31 2008, 12:31 PM) *
I was never arguing for wanting a high total, BTW. I know that a low total is better for teasers. I was stating that, despite the total being high and it being a road game, it was still a road underdog of +1.5, which falls in the Wong teaser parameters.

Just because Dallas shit the bed big time doesn't change that.


Druff, you are wrong. Ask Reggiman. He will confirm that you are wrong. Then ask icfishies.

Road teams are a fucking NO NO. Period. If you absolutely HAVE to have another team for a teaser leg, use a road team with a total around 40 or less.

Really restraining myself here, but when I hear you talk about what "falls into the Wong Teaser parameters" I have to laugh because you obviously have no idea what you are talking about. Seriously. Just stop. Don't make me bump all the horrible, godawful, nowhere near "wong teaser" bets that you posted this season. Jesus in the manager knows there are plenty to choose from.

And if this:

"Just because Dallas shit the bed big time doesn't change that"

is your way of accusing me of being a results oriented sportsbettor youre barkin up the wrong fuckin tree brah


Late response by me, but here it goes anyway...

I was new at teasers this season, so I made some mistakes at the beginning of the year. I admit that.

I also understand how low total games are better than high total games. That makes sense.

However, you are flat wrong in telling me that road games can't be +EV for teasers. Reggiman has complained about road FAVORITES before, but Dallas wasn't a road favorite.

I will agree that home teasers are better than road teasers, but to say that road teasers should be avoided at all times completely contradicts everything I've read and heard about teasers.

Good luck finding 3 teams to tease in a given week if you are only sticking to home teams within the proper parameters, with low totals.

Next season try posting your own teasers so you can show me the application of your strategies.


Druff, shut the fuck up.

IN ICfishies article he says he only takes home teams in teasers.

In my convos with Reggiman he says he only takes home teams in teasers.

I posted my own teasers every week for a while this season. Go look at all the threads titled NFL Week 9, etc.

Shut the fuck up about shit you know next to nothing about 1x. This is a thread about NFL betting, not limit holdem, not stiffing poor people who depend on your tips to survive. By all appearances you are an abject failure at sportsbetting. So shut the the fuck up. There are infinite retarded horrible posts you have made in this forum. You may know more now than you did week 1 but you still don't know nearly as much as you think you do. Take my word for it and shut the fuck up.

Im not reading you clear in your above post Dual....are you saying Druff should "shut the fuck up"? You are very ambiguous and vague. Next time be more direct and dont beat around the bush.


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post Jan 11 2009, 11:22 AM
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QUOTE(DanDruff @ Jan 11 2009, 05:59 AM) *
QUOTE(dual @ Dec 31 2008, 02:27 PM) *
QUOTE(DanDruff @ Dec 31 2008, 12:31 PM) *
I was never arguing for wanting a high total, BTW. I know that a low total is better for teasers. I was stating that, despite the total being high and it being a road game, it was still a road underdog of +1.5, which falls in the Wong teaser parameters.

Just because Dallas shit the bed big time doesn't change that.


Druff, you are wrong. Ask Reggiman. He will confirm that you are wrong. Then ask icfishies.

Road teams are a fucking NO NO. Period. If you absolutely HAVE to have another team for a teaser leg, use a road team with a total around 40 or less.

Really restraining myself here, but when I hear you talk about what "falls into the Wong Teaser parameters" I have to laugh because you obviously have no idea what you are talking about. Seriously. Just stop. Don't make me bump all the horrible, godawful, nowhere near "wong teaser" bets that you posted this season. Jesus in the manager knows there are plenty to choose from.

And if this:

"Just because Dallas shit the bed big time doesn't change that"

is your way of accusing me of being a results oriented sportsbettor youre barkin up the wrong fuckin tree brah


Late response by me, but here it goes anyway...

I was new at teasers this season, so I made some mistakes at the beginning of the year. I admit that.

I also understand how low total games are better than high total games. That makes sense.

However, you are flat wrong in telling me that road games can't be +EV for teasers. Reggiman has complained about road FAVORITES before, but Dallas wasn't a road favorite.

I will agree that home teasers are better than road teasers, but to say that road teasers should be avoided at all times completely contradicts everything I've read and heard about teasers.

Good luck finding 3 teams to tease in a given week if you are only sticking to home teams within the proper parameters, with low totals.

Next season try posting your own teasers so you can show me the application of your strategies.

So then don't tease if this is the case. If you do its like going into the big game and trying to win. Just not + ev. Better off taking some flat games if you need the action
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post Jan 11 2009, 12:21 PM
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"So then don't tease if this is the case."

exactly, if druff wasnt an ignorant jew retard he would realize that some weeks there are zero teaser candidates on the nfl board. last time i checked you need at least 2 to make a teaser.
trying to explain even the most fundamental sportsbetting concepts to druff is like trying to explain to a 3 year old how to eat pussy. while you are talking you know you are just wasting your time because it is going a mile over his head.


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post Jan 11 2009, 12:43 PM
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QUOTE(Chinamaniac @ Jan 11 2009, 08:22 PM) *
QUOTE(DanDruff @ Jan 11 2009, 05:59 AM) *
QUOTE(dual @ Dec 31 2008, 02:27 PM) *
QUOTE(DanDruff @ Dec 31 2008, 12:31 PM) *
I was never arguing for wanting a high total, BTW. I know that a low total is better for teasers. I was stating that, despite the total being high and it being a road game, it was still a road underdog of +1.5, which falls in the Wong teaser parameters.

Just because Dallas shit the bed big time doesn't change that.


Druff, you are wrong. Ask Reggiman. He will confirm that you are wrong. Then ask icfishies.

Road teams are a fucking NO NO. Period. If you absolutely HAVE to have another team for a teaser leg, use a road team with a total around 40 or less.

Really restraining myself here, but when I hear you talk about what "falls into the Wong Teaser parameters" I have to laugh because you obviously have no idea what you are talking about. Seriously. Just stop. Don't make me bump all the horrible, godawful, nowhere near "wong teaser" bets that you posted this season. Jesus in the manager knows there are plenty to choose from.

And if this:

"Just because Dallas shit the bed big time doesn't change that"

is your way of accusing me of being a results oriented sportsbettor youre barkin up the wrong fuckin tree brah


Late response by me, but here it goes anyway...

I was new at teasers this season, so I made some mistakes at the beginning of the year. I admit that.

I also understand how low total games are better than high total games. That makes sense.

However, you are flat wrong in telling me that road games can't be +EV for teasers. Reggiman has complained about road FAVORITES before, but Dallas wasn't a road favorite.

I will agree that home teasers are better than road teasers, but to say that road teasers should be avoided at all times completely contradicts everything I've read and heard about teasers.

Good luck finding 3 teams to tease in a given week if you are only sticking to home teams within the proper parameters, with low totals.

Next season try posting your own teasers so you can show me the application of your strategies.

So then don't tease if this is the case. If you do its like going into the big game and trying to win. Just not + ev. Better off taking some flat games if you need the action


Exactly, Druff is clueless in this case
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post Jan 12 2009, 06:56 PM
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QUOTE(dual @ Jan 11 2009, 10:13 AM) *
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I was never arguing for wanting a high total, BTW. I know that a low total is better for teasers. I was stating that, despite the total being high and it being a road game, it was still a road underdog of +1.5, which falls in the Wong teaser parameters.

Just because Dallas shit the bed big time doesn't change that.


Druff, you are wrong. Ask Reggiman. He will confirm that you are wrong. Then ask icfishies.

Road teams are a fucking NO NO. Period. If you absolutely HAVE to have another team for a teaser leg, use a road team with a total around 40 or less.

Really restraining myself here, but when I hear you talk about what "falls into the Wong Teaser parameters" I have to laugh because you obviously have no idea what you are talking about. Seriously. Just stop. Don't make me bump all the horrible, godawful, nowhere near "wong teaser" bets that you posted this season. Jesus in the manager knows there are plenty to choose from.

And if this:

"Just because Dallas shit the bed big time doesn't change that"

is your way of accusing me of being a results oriented sportsbettor youre barkin up the wrong fuckin tree brah


Late response by me, but here it goes anyway...

I was new at teasers this season, so I made some mistakes at the beginning of the year. I admit that.

I also understand how low total games are better than high total games. That makes sense.

However, you are flat wrong in telling me that road games can't be +EV for teasers. Reggiman has complained about road FAVORITES before, but Dallas wasn't a road favorite.

I will agree that home teasers are better than road teasers, but to say that road teasers should be avoided at all times completely contradicts everything I've read and heard about teasers.

Good luck finding 3 teams to tease in a given week if you are only sticking to home teams within the proper parameters, with low totals.

Next season try posting your own teasers so you can show me the application of your strategies.


Druff, shut the fuck up.

IN ICfishies article he says he only takes home teams in teasers.

In my convos with Reggiman he says he only takes home teams in teasers.

I posted my own teasers every week for a while this season. Go look at all the threads titled NFL Week 9, etc.

Shut the fuck up about shit you know next to nothing about 1x. This is a thread about NFL betting, not limit holdem, not stiffing poor people who depend on your tips to survive. By all appearances you are an abject failure at sportsbetting. So shut the the fuck up. There are infinite retarded horrible posts you have made in this forum. You may know more now than you did week 1 but you still don't know nearly as much as you think you do. Take my word for it and shut the fuck up.


I know icfishies personally, and I have discussed road teasers I've taken, and he's never mentioned a problem with that.

Listen, I am not arguing that road teasers are as good as home teasers. They're not. And I agree that, if each week presented a wide selection of teaseable home games, staying away from road teasers would be wise, even if just to lower variance and stick to the more "sure things".

Unfortuantely, this is not the case.

I looked nearly every week for Wong-able teasers. At the beginning of the season, I was basing it somewhat on incorrect parameters, so I found a few extra games that I shouldn't have played. However, once I was set straight, I had quite a hard time in many weeks finding 3 teams for a teaser bet -- and this is with the willingness to play road teams! Even with that, I was unable to find 3 teams for a teaser bet during 2 or 3 of the weeks in November, and I think 1 or 2 weeks in December. Had I stuck to only home teams, I probably would have barely had any plays going all season. Why? Because you just typically don't have that many home games falling into the proper parameters to get a 3-team teaser out of it.

What about 2-teamers? Sure, that's a possibility, but I can't seem to find a reliable sportsbook that gives you the necessary +100 payout for the 2-team teaser. If you're accepting less than that, you are making -EV bets.

I asked to see your teaser bets posted not to be obnoxious, but because I honestly want to see what teasers you're managing to find that I am somehow missing every week.

And I have a feeling that, if we looked at Reggiman's sportsbet history, we'd see a lot of road games as part of his teasers. Just a hunch.

Anyway, I'm awaiting those links to your previous teaser bets here that only include home teams.

Your hard-line attitude against playing road teasers reminds me of tournament players like Allen Kessler, who will swear that you're making a big mistake ever putting all your chips in preflop with a hand worse than AA.
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post Jan 12 2009, 06:58 PM
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Also, weak insult regarding "cheating poor people out of tips".

You won't find one post of mine advocating not tipping unless the person is already making a large sum of money (such as high-end strip casino blackjack dealers) or is providing poor service (in which case they don't deserve a tip, whether rich or poor).

You can continue to be a chump and tip service people who screw everything up and give you a nasty attitude about it when you ask for things to be corrected. I'll stick to giving my tip dollars to those that have earned it.
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post Jan 12 2009, 07:37 PM
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QUOTE(DanDruff @ Jan 12 2009, 09:58 PM) *
Also, weak insult regarding "cheating poor people out of tips".

You won't find one post of mine advocating not tipping unless the person is already making a large sum of money (such as high-end strip casino blackjack dealers) or is providing poor service (in which case they don't deserve a tip, whether rich or poor).

You can continue to be a chump and tip service people who screw everything up and give you a nasty attitude about it when you ask for things to be corrected. I'll stick to giving my tip dollars to those that have earned it.


The Schwartz is strong with this one!

Look motherfucker. I don't have to link you to shit. You can find it on your own if you care so goddamn much. Just like you can find Icifishies article where he says he only plays home teams in teasers.

Here you go, I actually made the effort to find this PM from reggiman

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6 pt teasers:
-all favorites -7.5 to -8.5, or just home favorites?

I would just use home favs unless the total is under 38. Favorites and especially road favs have historically done horrible in teasers. But yes everything else


Enjoy being right all the time about shit you are clearly wrong about, I'm sure it will lead to much prospering for you in the arena of sportsbetting. Good god


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Also Im officially done arguing with you about anything related to sportsbetting druff you stubborn monkey. YOu might actually learn something


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I'm still insisting that sticking only to home teams won't lead to finding 3 teasable games in most NFL weeks.

You can scream until you're blue in the face regarding home teasers being better, but that's pointless because I'm not disagreeing about that.

The question at hand is whether road teasers are -EV, not how they compare to home teasers.
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druff, i made money with nfl teasers this year. how about you?

like i said im done arguing this shit with you. youre actually changing the argument now. road teams in basic strategy teasers dont cover as much as home teams. period. you can get the exact numbers in sportsbetting books or on google. this is the reason why many pro bettors stay away from them entirely. this includes your friends. if you were some random schmuck and reggiman read this thread i am willing to bet he would flame the shit out of you.


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LOL I think Druff has a sports betting problem.


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QUOTE(DanDruff @ Jan 20 2008, 11:14 PM) *
There has always been some weird sexual tension between phantom and Martha.
Micon is lucky that there's a big ocean between you two.

I'm not sure which indignity is worse:
- Leaving your wife, shacking up with your former neighbor, and getting cheated on with a guy from your own poker forum, or...
- Getting ripped off for $12,000 by a guy with neck tattoos

Either way, Micon needs to be thankful that phantom isn't visiting his girl's land down under.

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