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*** OFFICIAL *** Dan Druff +EV Show Thread for 5/29, The WSOP, starting one hour late

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post May 29 2008, 09:53 AM
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The Dan Druff +EV Show will run as planned tonight, except it will begin an hour late. The show will start this week only at 11pm EDT/8pm PDT.

This week's topic is: The WSOP


Preview:

The 2008 World Series of Poker begins tomorrow, so there couldn't be a better time to discuss it. I've played a bunch of events since 2005, most famously my record-setting 3rd-then-1st finishes in my first two WSOP events ever. Since then, I've learned a lot more about the WSOP, including just how lucky I really was.

I've seen Harrah's mess things up for three years in a row (especially the last two years), and I've developed a lot of experience with the events themselves. As poorly as it's managed, the WSOP is still a special experience for most people, and just participating in it remains the goal for many small-time poker fans.

Among the topics to be covered:

- The history of the WSOP (I'll keep this short so I don't bore you all to death)

- The Moneymaker effect

- My first WSOP experiences, and how it felt to surprisingly do so well

- Tips for handling the WSOP logistics: When/how to register, where to stay if you don't live in Vegas, avoiding lines, what to do about food, and, yes, which bathrooms to use.

- The WSOP events: Which are easy? Which are toughest? Where do you have the best shot at winning a bracelet?

- Tips for the NL Holdem, Mixed Limit/NL Holdem, and Limit Holdem WSOP events. The strategies I found that worked and didn't work.

- The 2007 fiascos (also known as Why Harrah's Doesn't Give a Shit About the WSOP and Just Wants to Make Money)

- What do bracelets really mean anymore?

- The Main Event: Even though I've embarrassingly failed to get past Day 1 in my three tries, I will give my feelings about the Main Event, and why I still feel it's easily the best value 10k tournament in poker.

I'll also be taking your phone calls at (702) 430-1808.



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post May 29 2008, 04:39 PM
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Druff, what do you think the odds are of a "name" pro winning the Main Event? I personally want to see someone that is known win it rather than some "All-In-Pre-Flop" donk winning it.



I hope the "coaching" will be good for the final table as I don't want to see an "All-In" fest like the last 2 years seemed to be. I want to see good "Post-Flop" poker.

What does anyone else think?


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post May 29 2008, 04:42 PM
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Discuss


PokerStars Game #17783171348: Tournament #90178359, $25+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (200/400) - 2008/05/29 - 20:25:15 (ET)
Table '90178359 2' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Chrisinjo (1940 in chips)
Seat 2: hitme712 (2370 in chips)
Seat 3: gjmajt (4215 in chips)
Seat 4: gollos (1070 in chips)
Seat 5: 1liner (320 in chips)
Seat 6: sweghozt (3590 in chips)
Seat 7: Loctheking (6215 in chips)
Seat 8: ThreeBet (3810 in chips)
Seat 9: RED EYE BULL (3470 in chips)
Chrisinjo: posts the ante 25
hitme712: posts the ante 25
gjmajt: posts the ante 25
gollos: posts the ante 25
1liner: posts the ante 25
sweghozt: posts the ante 25
Loctheking: posts the ante 25
ThreeBet: posts the ante 25
RED EYE BULL: posts the ante 25
hitme712: posts small blind 200
gjmajt: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ThreeBet [3s 4c]
gollos: folds
1liner: folds
sweghozt: folds
Loctheking: calls 400
ThreeBet: folds
RED EYE BULL: raises 3045 to 3445 and is all-in
Chrisinjo: folds
hitme712: calls 2145 and is all-in
gjmajt: folds
Loctheking: folds
Uncalled bet (1100) returned to RED EYE BULL
*** FLOP *** [Kd 2c 2s]
*** TURN *** [Kd 2c 2s] [Ts]
*** RIVER *** [Kd 2c 2s Ts] [Tc]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
hitme712: shows [Ks Kh] (a full house, Kings full of Tens)
RED EYE BULL: shows [Td Th] (four of a kind, Tens)
RED EYE BULL collected 5715 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 5715 | Rake 0
Board [Kd 2c 2s Ts Tc]
Seat 1: Chrisinjo (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: hitme712 (small blind) showed [Ks Kh] and lost with a full house, Kings full of Tens
Seat 3: gjmajt (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: gollos folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: 1liner folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: sweghozt folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Loctheking folded before Flop
Seat 8: ThreeBet folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: RED EYE BULL showed [Td Th] and won (5715) with four of a kind, Tens
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post May 29 2008, 06:42 PM
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THE SHOW WILL BE DELAYED 30 MINUTES!!!!!! It will start at 8:30 now..

Druff still aint at his place yet. Ill post again if he calls me and tells me otherwise..
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post May 29 2008, 07:11 PM
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QUOTE(lakingsfan12 @ May 29 2008, 10:42 PM) *
THE SHOW WILL BE DELAYED 30 MINUTES!!!!!! It will start at 8:30 now..
DRUFF WILL BE ON AFTER THE LAKERS GAME


No fucking Shit
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post May 29 2008, 07:18 PM
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:teh lakers icon_biggrin.gif

druff making neverwin moves lol


wat radio? when lakers are playing

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post May 29 2008, 07:20 PM
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Actually, hes pretty pissed hes late and apologizes.. Im updating him with the score smile.gif.. And hes pissed.. put that shit on.. Its a good game!
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post May 29 2008, 07:23 PM
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QUOTE(lakingsfan12 @ May 29 2008, 11:20 PM) *
Actually, hes pretty pissed hes late and apologizes.. Im updating him with the score smile.gif.. And hes pissed.. put that shit on.. Its a good game!

I know he is a jew and all but He doesnt have a radio in his car?
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post May 29 2008, 07:25 PM
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QUOTE(lakingsfan12 @ May 30 2008, 03:20 AM) *
Actually, hes pretty pissed hes late and apologizes.. Im updating him with the score smile.gif.. And hes pissed.. put that shit on.. Its a good game!

ending looksexciting, watch game fist obv end then start radio

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post May 29 2008, 07:27 PM
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QUOTE(Chinamaniac @ May 30 2008, 01:23 PM) *
QUOTE(lakingsfan12 @ May 29 2008, 11:20 PM) *
Actually, hes pretty pissed hes late and apologizes.. Im updating him with the score smile.gif.. And hes pissed.. put that shit on.. Its a good game!

I know he is a jew and all but He doesnt have a radio in his car?


Thats a good point.. Im guessing hes thinking too much about the show to find what channel its on in vegas..
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post May 29 2008, 07:31 PM
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Show delayed a bit more for 2 reasons:

1) I want to see the end of this Lakers game.

2) My router appears to be donkdown, or is at least malfunctioning. This will prevent me from doing the show unless I can get it resolved. More info shortly.
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post May 29 2008, 07:34 PM
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QUOTE(threebet @ May 29 2008, 07:42 PM) *
Discuss


PokerStars Game #17783171348: Tournament #90178359, $25+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (200/400) - 2008/05/29 - 20:25:15 (ET)
Table '90178359 2' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Chrisinjo (1940 in chips)
Seat 2: hitme712 (2370 in chips)
Seat 3: gjmajt (4215 in chips)
Seat 4: gollos (1070 in chips)
Seat 5: 1liner (320 in chips)
Seat 6: sweghozt (3590 in chips)
Seat 7: Loctheking (6215 in chips)
Seat 8: ThreeBet (3810 in chips)
Seat 9: RED EYE BULL (3470 in chips)
Chrisinjo: posts the ante 25
hitme712: posts the ante 25
gjmajt: posts the ante 25
gollos: posts the ante 25
1liner: posts the ante 25
sweghozt: posts the ante 25
Loctheking: posts the ante 25
ThreeBet: posts the ante 25
RED EYE BULL: posts the ante 25
hitme712: posts small blind 200
gjmajt: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ThreeBet [3s 4c]
gollos: folds
1liner: folds
sweghozt: folds
Loctheking: calls 400
ThreeBet: folds
RED EYE BULL: raises 3045 to 3445 and is all-in
Chrisinjo: folds
hitme712: calls 2145 and is all-in
gjmajt: folds
Loctheking: folds
Uncalled bet (1100) returned to RED EYE BULL
*** FLOP *** [Kd 2c 2s]
*** TURN *** [Kd 2c 2s] [Ts]
*** RIVER *** [Kd 2c 2s Ts] [Tc]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
hitme712: shows [Ks Kh] (a full house, Kings full of Tens)
RED EYE BULL: shows [Td Th] (four of a kind, Tens)
RED EYE BULL collected 5715 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 5715 | Rake 0
Board [Kd 2c 2s Ts Tc]
Seat 1: Chrisinjo (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: hitme712 (small blind) showed [Ks Kh] and lost with a full house, Kings full of Tens
Seat 3: gjmajt (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: gollos folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: 1liner folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: sweghozt folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Loctheking folded before Flop
Seat 8: ThreeBet folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: RED EYE BULL showed [Td Th] and won (5715) with four of a kind, Tens


There is 1225 in the pot a guy with 8bb shoves in the cutoff and gets called by a pair a little smaller from a guy that has 5.5bb. What were the alternatives? Raising the limper out by betting 1600 and committing yourself anyway? Or limping and let somebody flop a set to your overpair? With these stack sizes how can you do anything different? Especially in a five table turbo sng.(just assume since it is a $27)


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post May 29 2008, 07:40 PM
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I dislike Kobe, but shit M - V - P!!!!! GO LAKERS!!!!
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post May 29 2008, 07:46 PM
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so no show or what?
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About to start.. had to wait till end of game (not that it was in doubt)
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QUOTE(lakingsfan12 @ May 30 2008, 03:47 AM) *
About to start.. had to wait till end of game (not that it was in doubt)


well...its over and he said his comp was fucked up so idk
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post May 29 2008, 07:54 PM
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Will start at 9pm PDT.
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Celtics in 6, after we beat Detroit tomorrow.

Respect to Kobe and Gasol, but Pierce, KG and Allen finally get their rings!!!


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QUOTE(Biggz @ May 30 2008, 01:54 PM) *
Celtics in 6, after we beat Detroit tomorrow.

Respect to Kobe and Gasol, but Pierce, KG and Allen finally get their rings!!!

you couldnt be speaking from a deeper spot up your colon
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QUOTE(lakingsfan12 @ May 30 2008, 03:56 AM) *
QUOTE(Biggz @ May 30 2008, 01:54 PM) *
Celtics in 6, after we beat Detroit tomorrow.

Respect to Kobe and Gasol, but Pierce, KG and Allen finally get their rings!!!

you couldnt be speaking from a deeper spot up your colon



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