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Vwls, let's be honest here, Rolled: A FckVwls Story

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post Jan 30 2009, 01:54 AM
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QUOTE(DanDruff @ Jan 30 2009, 09:50 AM) *
This isn't about stopping a ship from sinking, or getting more attention paid to NWP.

This is my answer to Vwls' demand for an apology regarding these accusations.

Mike, Sofaking, anyone else.... a question for you:

We made brief mention of this, she acted outraged, and subsequently accused us on boris of lying, and demanded an apology.

Given that I know that the accusations were true, what should I do at this point? Just ignore it and make it look like I was a big liar?

Explain the proper course of action here.

Also explain why people like fminc, Weissman, CMONEY, Justin Smith, and countless others are vilified for rolling people, yet somehow it's a non-issue if it involves Vwls.


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post Jan 30 2009, 01:55 AM
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From cth on boris:

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What does Druff think outing Vwls accomplishes? Depending on who she may or may not have scammed, there's a good 94% chance none of us will care. If she scammed someone close to us, there's a good 98% chance that we'll all still be posting at Boris.

Thought I don't know Angel personally, I feel like I've got to know "Vwls" over the years and I don't think she would ever scam anyone intentionally. If she did scam one then there's a good chance that I think that they are a douchebag and don't care. Either way, this post turns me off from NWP even more. Most of us on Boris have more respect on NWP for Druff than any other kind of NWP authority. This thread and future attempts at encouraging a Boris revolt will be looked down upon.



Again, this isn't about hurting boris' activity, or making people return to NWP.

This is simply answering Vwls' demand for an apology and her accusations that we made up lies.

In addition, the person who got rolled needs to be paid back.

cth, as you have seen over the years, I have always made efforts to get people paid back when rollings occur, even if I get nothing out of it personally.
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post Jan 30 2009, 01:55 AM
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QUOTE(DanDruff @ Jan 30 2009, 10:44 AM) *
I am wondering if Michael, who is apparently close friends with Angel, knows the story and is afraid it will come out.

I am starting to think that he might.

I like vwls, I wouldn't say we are close friends, no irl stuff or anything, we just both shared a passion about neverwinpoker.

I just think your still kinda mad at vwls and are either trying to get more hits as Delaware would say, or venting your anger at her. No one questioned your integrity or called you a liar at boris, so that excuse doesn't really work, and no one knows what your talking about in regards to a rolling, so no one is commenting either way really, if something went down it's between the accuser (if they exist) and vwls.

Also Micon said on radio a couple of weeks ago that wrenchjockey was fired in part due to allegations that Micon later found out to be false, so who knows if this is some misunderstanding or a disgruntled user or something.



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post Jan 30 2009, 02:00 AM
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QUOTE(DanDruff @ Jun 29 2009, 09:50 AM) *
This isn't about stopping a ship from sinking, or getting more attention paid to NWP.

This is my answer to Vwls' demand for an apology regarding these accusations.

Mike, Sofaking, anyone else.... a question for you:

We made brief mention of this, she acted outraged, and subsequently accused us on boris of lying, and demanded an apology.

Given that I know that the accusations were true, what should I do at this point? Just ignore it and make it look like I was a big liar?

Explain the proper course of action here.

Also explain why people like fminc, Weissman, CMONEY, Justin Smith, and countless others are vilified for rolling people, yet somehow it's a non-issue if it involves Vwls.


Then tell the whole story, or are we just goint to take your word for it?

Also Micon I got 5 bucks on you in the deadpool.
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post Jan 30 2009, 02:00 AM
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QUOTE(DanDruff @ Jan 30 2009, 08:50 PM) *
This isn't about stopping a ship from sinking, or getting more attention paid to NWP.

This is my answer to Vwls' demand for an apology regarding these accusations.

Mike, Sofaking, anyone else.... a question for you:

We made brief mention of this, she acted outraged, and subsequently accused us on boris of lying, and demanded an apology.

Given that I know that the accusations were true, what should I do at this point? Just ignore it and make it look like I was a big liar?

Explain the proper course of action here.

Also explain why people like fminc, Weissman, CMONEY, Justin Smith, and countless others are vilified for rolling people, yet somehow it's a non-issue if it involves Vwls.

my answer(s)....

-if i have a problem with someone, i take it up with THAT person.
-if i KNOW my name is good, i could give a fuck less about what ANYONE says.
-if i elect to put myself in a position to/make myself a bastion of some sort of decency/fairness (albeit in a den of degenaracy), im going to realize that i cant enforce standards that i dont hold myself to.
-if ive got the goods on someone and want to out them for something, then im going to do just that. not conjure up a bunch of drama just to ruffle some feathers without showing anything concrete.

-but above all, i would like to think taht id be able to tell the difference between what is important and what is annoying


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post Jan 30 2009, 02:01 AM
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QUOTE(michael @ Jan 30 2009, 01:55 AM) *
QUOTE(DanDruff @ Jan 30 2009, 10:44 AM) *
I am wondering if Michael, who is apparently close friends with Angel, knows the story and is afraid it will come out.

I am starting to think that he might.

I like vwls, I wouldn't say we are close friends, no irl stuff or anything, we just both shared a passion about neverwinpoker.

I just think your still kinda mad at vwls and are either trying to get more hits as Delaware would say, or venting your anger at her. No one questioned your integrity or called you a liar at boris, so that excuse doesn't really work, and no one knows what your talking about in regards to a rolling, so no one is commenting either way really, if something went down it's between the accuser (if they exist) and vwls.

Also Micon said on radio a couple of weeks ago that wrenchjockey was fired in part due to allegations that Micon later found out to be false, so who knows if this is some misunderstanding or a disgruntled user or something.


Micon was often in a pot-induced haze and made snap decisions that weren't always well thought-out.

I am the opposite of that.

The accuser exists, and the evidence is extremely strong. Trust me on that.

Vwls demanded an apology for these accusations on boris, and at one point theorized that this was a lie for attention-getting purposes.

I am responding.

If you don't care, that's your perrogative.

Personally, I find it interesting when long-trusted users end up being involved in rollings.
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post Jan 30 2009, 02:02 AM
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post Jan 30 2009, 02:04 AM
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I'm starting slowly.

Part of the interesting aspect to this exercise will be seeing how far she takes the denial before becoming convinced that I'm not bluffing.

Her reaction to this will speak volumes about her character.
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post Jan 30 2009, 02:05 AM
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QUOTE(DanDruff @ Jan 30 2009, 09:50 AM) *
Also explain why people like fminc, Weissman, CMONEY, Justin Smith, and countless others are vilified for rolling people, yet somehow it's a non-issue if it involves Vwls.


She's probably the closest some of the blackcockclub kids have been to a real female. I doubt they would give that up so easily.
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post Jan 30 2009, 02:06 AM
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druff stop lying. you're such a goddamn liar.
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post Jan 30 2009, 02:06 AM
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QUOTE(Beenstaring @ Jan 30 2009, 04:06 AM) *
druff stop lying. you're such a goddamn liar.

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post Jan 30 2009, 02:07 AM
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QUOTE(Beenstaring @ Jan 30 2009, 04:06 AM) *
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druff stop lying. you're such a goddamn liar.

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post Jan 30 2009, 02:10 AM
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Beenfagging, what makes you convinced I'm lying?

Do I have a track record of dishonesty here?

When have I ever come out with an accusation against someone here of this degree of seriousness and had it turn out not to be true?
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post Jan 30 2009, 02:11 AM
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QUOTE(DanDruff @ Jan 30 2009, 04:10 AM) *
Beenfagging, what makes you convinced I'm lying?

Do I have a track record of dishonesty here?

When have I ever come out with an accusation against someone here of this degree of seriousness and had it turn out not to be true?

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post Jan 30 2009, 02:14 AM
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QUOTE(DanDruff @ Jun 29 2009, 10:04 AM) *
I'm starting slowly.

Part of the interesting aspect to this exercise will be seeing how far she takes the denial before becoming convinced that I'm not bluffing.

Her reaction to this will speak volumes about her character.


Could we get the exact number of money owed, I will ship some of the owed money to your starsaccount if Angel is broke and doesnt have funds herself.
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post Jan 30 2009, 02:15 AM
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I can't see where any of this holds any truth. Why would you lie about this Druff? I don't understand.
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post Jan 30 2009, 02:16 AM
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QUOTE(RSX @ Jan 30 2009, 04:15 AM) *
I can't see where any of this holds any truth. Why would you lie about this Druff? I don't understand.

he likes to lie i just don't get it
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Just on the accuser, nothing to lose at this point - just spill the story


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post Jan 30 2009, 02:18 AM
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I have had my share of disagreements with Druff but I don't think anyone has ever known him to lie or make shit up............although Jewdonk may disagree. LOL Angel never struck me as the type to intentionally roll someone though, so if your accusations have some basis, I do wonder if you have the full and complete story.


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post Jan 30 2009, 02:20 AM
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lol'd at the swear on your kids life

A little brash imo.


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