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Bryan
I want to respond to your PM's in Shooting Off in addition to the replies I sent you, because it's very important for me to clear the air and try and correct or rather resolve a few issues.
There is a matter involved which I obviously can't be too specific about in the forums other than to tell you that there has been no 'breach of confidence' whatsoever.
Nothing is getting passed around to 'random' people in bulk. But it's painfully obvious to me at this point that there are certain people that I have put my confidence in that can't be trusted. I was upfront with you about that back in May, and nothing has changed. Nothing is getting 'distributed' or publicized and I certainly have no malicious intentions, nor did I ever. 'betrayed' your trust ? You're joking right ?
I would appreciate you sending me a PM and telling me who exactly contacted you regarding this matter , because that person is the real snake here, not me. The only trust that has been betrayed is mine. I share things with people I feel I can trust not to turn on me and clearly there is someone here who is working to assault my integrity by ratting me out to you. In May I told you exactly the same thing I told you in PM's today and nothing has changed since then.
I passed this on in my replies to you as well, but I want to state for public record that historically I have always been in your corner when the chips have been down around here and also during a crisis that brought NWP to it's knees. You sure have a selective memory Bryan.
With that said, of course I was pissed off when our agreement was terminated. I made my sentiments pretty clear previously that in my opinion the deal we struck was between you and me. Not me and whatever party or parties was funding the bulk of operating costs on NWP.
The circumstances here would be similar to a general contractor hiring numerous subcontractors to perform a variety of jobs, but then when payday rolls around, telling them.. 'oh gee, sorry the developer cut off funding for the project, I can't pay you' but continuing to reap the benefit of their efforts and expecting them to perform charity work.
I think I am perfectly justified in being more than a little annoyed that our agreement went south considering the facts I am privy to. But let me make it perfectly clear that I have never taken measures to exact any kind of childish revenge or launch some silly 'counter assault' in retaliation. What's done is done and I may have bitched about it, but anything I said was not going to change the circumstances or the end result. So I put it all to bed and made a decision to move on.
Now...
As far as the threads I started this week about your poker game, training methods, source of income and statistics. The vast majority of what I said was right on the money and that can't be disputed.
However, not ONCE have I ever stooped to the level of personal attacks, slurs, character assaults or demeaning you as a person. My intention was to get you fired up enough to actually explain some of your decision making and to inspire a poker discussion as well as spice up Shooting Off a bit, because God knows it needs something lately with the surplus of deadwood and infestation of trolls.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but NWP is supposed to at least resemble a poker forum, and I am issuing my opinion (as much as it may sting) that the Maven system is bullshit and that some of the plays I see you making are simply horrible. I don't know how else to spell it out for you. This is what some people might call a healthy discussion. You see it as a personal attack.
Granted I did bust out some heavy artillery, but IMO poker discussion, criticism or praise is fair game. Your reaction was more along the lines of me calling you a filthy kike or stabbing you in the back somehow. I find all of it comical considering the amount of shit you have taken over the last 5 years on this site. I had no idea you would react like a wounded animal backed into a corner or I never would have dared to critique your game, or the Maven for that matter.
Hell I don't have any idea what this 'system' is all about I (other than multi-tabling), nor do I care. The Maven seems like an intelligent young man who is clearly marketing his product like a true professional and for that I give him props. But I stand by what I said previously that it all reminds me of a cheap snake oil salesman pimping his product on the open market for personal gain and nothing else.
If the Maven system was that extraordinary and this 'secret' was as effective as he claims, then why on Earth would he be passing it out like warm biscuits to anyone with an extra 5K laying around the house ?
Logic would dictate that if 'The Maven System' was everything he claims it is, then he sure as fuck wouldn't be distributing it on the open market for a measly five grand. He would be holed up with multiple monitors crushing the game and never looking back. He certainly wouldn't want to pass on a 'secret' of that much value if it was the diamond in the rough he claims it is.
You seem to be taking all of this very personally and I there is nothing I can do about that. I am entitled to disagree and state my opinion regarding poker strategy like anyone else is, and if you got caught in the cross-hairs, well that's because you willingly put yourself there, not because I singled you out over spite.
Now to re-address this 'breach of trust' you seem to think I am guilty of. You can bag that up right here and now because I am done trying to pacify your fragile ego or trying to explain what has transpired.
Not as if you are listening to a single word I said anyway. The truth is that you have reaped the benefits of my presence on this site for a hell of a long time, and if you think for a single fleeting moment that I am going out of my way to fuck you over or spread vicious rumors about you, then you are on fucking crack Bryan.
This post has been edited by Jewdonk: Aug 17 2009, 07:57 PM
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QUOTE(Chinamaniac @ Nov 19 2009, 08:16 PM)
Maybe your delusional from too many cock sandwiches.
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Jesus Christ don't you have Bryan's number?
Call the fucking guy, or is that shitty 1997 razor out of minutes?
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QUOTE(Jewdonk @ Oct 11 2009, 07:12 PM)
I'm gonna get this shit shut down mark my words
By the time I am done with my email to Robbie, he is going to be sending me a thank you note right before he puts this fucking cesspool on lockdown permamently
QUOTE(Jewdonk @ Oct 11 2009, 07:36 PM)
keep underestimating me
QUOTE(Jewdonk @ Oct 11 2009, 07:59 PM)
NWP sucks and I am going to make sure that this shit gets wiped off the fucking web as soon as possible. I hate everything this site stands for and always have since the day I regged here 3 years ago
I want to respond to your PM's in Shooting Off in addition to the replies I sent you, because it's very important for me to clear the air and try and correct or rather resolve a few issues.
There is a matter involved which I obviously can't be too specific about in the forums other than to tell you that there has been no 'breach of confidence' whatsoever.
Nothing is getting passed around to 'random' people in bulk. But it's painfully obvious to me at this point that there are certain people that I have put my confidence in that can't be trusted. I was upfront with you about that back in May, and nothing has changed. Nothing is getting 'distributed' or publicized and I certainly have no malicious intentions, nor did I ever. 'betrayed' your trust ? You're joking right ?
I would appreciate you sending me a PM and telling me who exactly contacted you regarding this matter , because that person is the real snake here, not me. The only trust that has been betrayed is mine. I share things with people I feel I can trust not to turn on me and clearly there is someone here who is working to assault my integrity by ratting me out to you. In May I told you exactly the same thing I told you in PM's today and nothing has changed since then.
I passed this on in my replies to you as well, but I want to state for public record that historically I have always been in your corner when the chips have been down around here and also during a crisis that brought NWP to it's knees. You sure have a selective memory Bryan.
With that said, of course I was pissed off when our agreement was terminated. I made my sentiments pretty clear previously that in my opinion the deal we struck was between you and me. Not me and whatever party or parties was funding the bulk of operating costs on NWP.
The circumstances here would be similar to a general contractor hiring numerous subcontractors to perform a variety of jobs, but then when payday rolls around, telling them.. 'oh gee, sorry the developer cut off funding for the project, I can't pay you' but continuing to reap the benefit of their efforts and expecting them to perform charity work.
I think I am perfectly justified in being more than a little annoyed that our agreement went south considering the facts I am privy to. But let me make it perfectly clear that I have never taken measures to exact any kind of childish revenge or launch some silly 'counter assault' in retaliation. What's done is done and I may have bitched about it, but anything I said was not going to change the circumstances or the end result. So I put it all to bed and made a decision to move on.
Now...
As far as the threads I started this week about your poker game, training methods, source of income and statistics. The vast majority of what I said was right on the money and that can't be disputed.
However, not ONCE have I ever stooped to the level of personal attacks, slurs, character assaults or demeaning you as a person. My intention was to get you fired up enough to actually explain some of your decision making and to inspire a poker discussion as well as spice up Shooting Off a bit, because God knows it needs something lately with the surplus of deadwood and infestation of trolls.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but NWP is supposed to at least resemble a poker forum, and I am issuing my opinion (as much as it may sting) that the Maven system is bullshit and that some of the plays I see you making are simply horrible. I don't know how else to spell it out for you. This is what some people might call a healthy discussion. You see it as a personal attack.
Granted I did bust out some heavy artillery, but IMO poker discussion, criticism or praise is fair game. Your reaction was more along the lines of me calling you a filthy kike or stabbing you in the back somehow. I find all of it comical considering the amount of shit you have taken over the last 5 years on this site. I had no idea you would react like a wounded animal backed into a corner or I never would have dared to critique your game, or the Maven for that matter.
Hell I don't have any idea what this 'system' is all about I (other than multi-tabling), nor do I care. The Maven seems like an intelligent young man who is clearly marketing his product like a true professional and for that I give him props. But I stand by what I said previously that it all reminds me of a cheap snake oil salesman pimping his product on the open market for personal gain and nothing else.
If the Maven system was that extraordinary and this 'secret' was as effective as he claims, then why on Earth would he be passing it out like warm biscuits to anyone with an extra 5K laying around the house ?
Logic would dictate that if 'The Maven System' was everything he claims it is, then he sure as fuck wouldn't be distributing it on the open market for a measly five grand. He would be holed up with multiple monitors crushing the game and never looking back. He certainly wouldn't want to pass on a 'secret' of that much value if it was the diamond in the rough he claims it is.
You seem to be taking all of this very personally and I there is nothing I can do about that. I am entitled to disagree and state my opinion regarding poker strategy like anyone else is and if you got caught in the cross-hairs, well that's because you willingly put yourself there, not because I singled you out over spite.
Now to re-address this 'breach of trust' you seem to think I am guilty of. You can bag that up right here and now because I am done trying to pacify your fragile ego or trying to explain what has transpired.
Not as if you are listening to a single word I said anyway. The truth is that you have reaped the benefits of my presence on this site for a hell of a long time, and if you think for a single fleeting moment that I am going out of my way to fuck you over or spread vicious rumors about you, then you are on fucking crack Bryan.
Jewdonk - debate these facts:
1) Jewdonk was accidentally copied on a very sensitive email from Lithuania a few months ago
2) When Jewdonk still had a working cell phone, I called him and asked him not to ever tell anyone else about this email
3) Jewdonk agrees to keep the email a secret
4) Recently Jewdonk sent this email to at least 4 different people, likely more than that.
It is painfully clear to me that you betrayed my trust. Saying that the people you gave the email to betrayed your trust is just fish talk. You promised me you would never distribute, and you did. You will not be trusted again. I will tell you what I told you in my email - Yes you helped NWP alot in the recent months / year. But if you leave NWP, post exclusively on another site, never post again I don't care, because you cause me too many problems. You have demanded money and in the same breath say it's not about the money - I'm just sick of it.
I want to respond to your PM's in Shooting Off in addition to the replies I sent you, because it's very important for me to clear the air and try and correct or rather resolve a few issues.
There is a matter involved which I obviously can't be too specific about in the forums other than to tell you that there has been no 'breach of confidence' whatsoever.
Nothing is getting passed around to 'random' people in bulk. But it's painfully obvious to me at this point that there are certain people that I have put my confidence in that can't be trusted. I was upfront with you about that back in May, and nothing has changed. Nothing is getting 'distributed' or publicized and I certainly have no malicious intentions, nor did I ever. 'betrayed' your trust ? You're joking right ?
I would appreciate you sending me a PM and telling me who exactly contacted you regarding this matter , because that person is the real snake here, not me. The only trust that has been betrayed is mine. I share things with people I feel I can trust not to turn on me and clearly there is someone here who is working to assault my integrity by ratting me out to you. In May I told you exactly the same thing I told you in PM's today and nothing has changed since then.
I passed this on in my replies to you as well, but I want to state for public record that historically I have always been in your corner when the chips have been down around here and also during a crisis that brought NWP to it's knees. You sure have a selective memory Bryan.
With that said, of course I was pissed off when our agreement was terminated. I made my sentiments pretty clear previously that in my opinion the deal we struck was between you and me. Not me and whatever party or parties was funding the bulk of operating costs on NWP.
The circumstances here would be similar to a general contractor hiring numerous subcontractors to perform a variety of jobs, but then when payday rolls around, telling them.. 'oh gee, sorry the developer cut off funding for the project, I can't pay you' but continuing to reap the benefit of their efforts and expecting them to perform charity work.
I think I am perfectly justified in being more than a little annoyed that our agreement went south considering the facts I am privy to. But let me make it perfectly clear that I have never taken measures to exact any kind of childish revenge or launch some silly 'counter assault' in retaliation. What's done is done and I may have bitched about it, but anything I said was not going to change the circumstances or the end result. So I put it all to bed and made a decision to move on.
Now...
As far as the threads I started this week about your poker game, training methods, source of income and statistics. The vast majority of what I said was right on the money and that can't be disputed.
However, not ONCE have I ever stooped to the level of personal attacks, slurs, character assaults or demeaning you as a person. My intention was to get you fired up enough to actually explain some of your decision making and to inspire a poker discussion as well as spice up Shooting Off a bit, because God knows it needs something lately with the surplus of deadwood and infestation of trolls.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but NWP is supposed to at least resemble a poker forum, and I am issuing my opinion (as much as it may sting) that the Maven system is bullshit and that some of the plays I see you making are simply horrible. I don't know how else to spell it out for you. This is what some people might call a healthy discussion. You see it as a personal attack.
Granted I did bust out some heavy artillery, but IMO poker discussion, criticism or praise is fair game. Your reaction was more along the lines of me calling you a filthy kike or stabbing you in the back somehow. I find all of it comical considering the amount of shit you have taken over the last 5 years on this site. I had no idea you would react like a wounded animal backed into a corner or I never would have dared to critique your game, or the Maven for that matter.
Hell I don't have any idea what this 'system' is all about I (other than multi-tabling), nor do I care. The Maven seems like an intelligent young man who is clearly marketing his product like a true professional and for that I give him props. But I stand by what I said previously that it all reminds me of a cheap snake oil salesman pimping his product on the open market for personal gain and nothing else.
If the Maven system was that extraordinary and this 'secret' was as effective as he claims, then why on Earth would he be passing it out like warm biscuits to anyone with an extra 5K laying around the house ?
Logic would dictate that if 'The Maven System' was everything he claims it is, then he sure as fuck wouldn't be distributing it on the open market for a measly five grand. He would be holed up with multiple monitors crushing the game and never looking back. He certainly wouldn't want to pass on a 'secret' of that much value if it was the diamond in the rough he claims it is.
You seem to be taking all of this very personally and I there is nothing I can do about that. I am entitled to disagree and state my opinion regarding poker strategy like anyone else is and if you got caught in the cross-hairs, well that's because you willingly put yourself there, not because I singled you out over spite.
Now to re-address this 'breach of trust' you seem to think I am guilty of. You can bag that up right here and now because I am done trying to pacify your fragile ego or trying to explain what has transpired.
Not as if you are listening to a single word I said anyway. The truth is that you have reaped the benefits of my presence on this site for a hell of a long time, and if you think for a single fleeting moment that I am going out of my way to fuck you over or spread vicious rumors about you, then you are on fucking crack Bryan.
Jewdonk - debate these facts:
1) Jewdonk was accidentally copied on a very sensitive email from Lithuania a few months ago
2) When Jewdonk still had a working cell phone, I called him and asked him not to ever tell anyone else about this email
3) Jewdonk agrees to keep the email a secret
4) Recently Jewdonk sent this email to at least 4 different people, likely more than that.
It is painfully clear to me that you betrayed my trust. Saying that the people you gave the email to betrayed your trust is just fish talk. You promised me you would never distribute, and you did. You will not be trusted again. I will tell you what I told you in my email - Yes you helped NWP alot in the recent months / year. But if you leave NWP, post exclusively on another site, never post again I don't care, because you cause me too many problems. You have demanded money and in the same breath say it's not about the money - I'm just sick of it.
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QUOTE(micon @ Aug 17 2009, 11:54 PM)
QUOTE(Jewdonk @ Aug 18 2009, 04:39 AM)
Bryan
I want to respond to your PM's in Shooting Off in addition to the replies I sent you, because it's very important for me to clear the air and try and correct or rather resolve a few issues.
There is a matter involved which I obviously can't be too specific about in the forums other than to tell you that there has been no 'breach of confidence' whatsoever.
Nothing is getting passed around to 'random' people in bulk. But it's painfully obvious to me at this point that there are certain people that I have put my confidence in that can't be trusted. I was upfront with you about that back in May, and nothing has changed. Nothing is getting 'distributed' or publicized and I certainly have no malicious intentions, nor did I ever. 'betrayed' your trust ? You're joking right ?
I would appreciate you sending me a PM and telling me who exactly contacted you regarding this matter , because that person is the real snake here, not me. The only trust that has been betrayed is mine. I share things with people I feel I can trust not to turn on me and clearly there is someone here who is working to assault my integrity by ratting me out to you. In May I told you exactly the same thing I told you in PM's today and nothing has changed since then.
I passed this on in my replies to you as well, but I want to state for public record that historically I have always been in your corner when the chips have been down around here and also during a crisis that brought NWP to it's knees. You sure have a selective memory Bryan.
With that said, of course I was pissed off when our agreement was terminated. I made my sentiments pretty clear previously that in my opinion the deal we struck was between you and me. Not me and whatever party or parties was funding the bulk of operating costs on NWP.
The circumstances here would be similar to a general contractor hiring numerous subcontractors to perform a variety of jobs, but then when payday rolls around, telling them.. 'oh gee, sorry the developer cut off funding for the project, I can't pay you' but continuing to reap the benefit of their efforts and expecting them to perform charity work.
I think I am perfectly justified in being more than a little annoyed that our agreement went south considering the facts I am privy to. But let me make it perfectly clear that I have never taken measures to exact any kind of childish revenge or launch some silly 'counter assault' in retaliation. What's done is done and I may have bitched about it, but anything I said was not going to change the circumstances or the end result. So I put it all to bed and made a decision to move on.
Now...
As far as the threads I started this week about your poker game, training methods, source of income and statistics. The vast majority of what I said was right on the money and that can't be disputed.
However, not ONCE have I ever stooped to the level of personal attacks, slurs, character assaults or demeaning you as a person. My intention was to get you fired up enough to actually explain some of your decision making and to inspire a poker discussion as well as spice up Shooting Off a bit, because God knows it needs something lately with the surplus of deadwood and infestation of trolls.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but NWP is supposed to at least resemble a poker forum, and I am issuing my opinion (as much as it may sting) that the Maven system is bullshit and that some of the plays I see you making are simply horrible. I don't know how else to spell it out for you. This is what some people might call a healthy discussion. You see it as a personal attack.
Granted I did bust out some heavy artillery, but IMO poker discussion, criticism or praise is fair game. Your reaction was more along the lines of me calling you a filthy kike or stabbing you in the back somehow. I find all of it comical considering the amount of shit you have taken over the last 5 years on this site. I had no idea you would react like a wounded animal backed into a corner or I never would have dared to critique your game, or the Maven for that matter.
Hell I don't have any idea what this 'system' is all about I (other than multi-tabling), nor do I care. The Maven seems like an intelligent young man who is clearly marketing his product like a true professional and for that I give him props. But I stand by what I said previously that it all reminds me of a cheap snake oil salesman pimping his product on the open market for personal gain and nothing else.
If the Maven system was that extraordinary and this 'secret' was as effective as he claims, then why on Earth would he be passing it out like warm biscuits to anyone with an extra 5K laying around the house ?
Logic would dictate that if 'The Maven System' was everything he claims it is, then he sure as fuck wouldn't be distributing it on the open market for a measly five grand. He would be holed up with multiple monitors crushing the game and never looking back. He certainly wouldn't want to pass on a 'secret' of that much value if it was the diamond in the rough he claims it is.
You seem to be taking all of this very personally and I there is nothing I can do about that. I am entitled to disagree and state my opinion regarding poker strategy like anyone else is and if you got caught in the cross-hairs, well that's because you willingly put yourself there, not because I singled you out over spite.
Now to re-address this 'breach of trust' you seem to think I am guilty of. You can bag that up right here and now because I am done trying to pacify your fragile ego or trying to explain what has transpired.
Not as if you are listening to a single word I said anyway. The truth is that you have reaped the benefits of my presence on this site for a hell of a long time, and if you think for a single fleeting moment that I am going out of my way to fuck you over or spread vicious rumors about you, then you are on fucking crack Bryan.
Jewdonk - debate these facts:
1) Jewdonk was accidentally copied on a very sensitive email from Lithuania a few months ago
2) When Jewdonk still had a working cell phone, I called him and asked him not to ever tell anyone else about this email
3) Jewdonk agrees to keep the email a secret
4) Recently Jewdonk sent this email to at least 4 different people, likely more than that.
It is painfully clear to me that you betrayed my trust. Saying that the people you gave the email to betrayed your trust is just fish talk. You promised me you would never distribute, and you did. You will not be trusted again. I will tell you what I told you in my email - Yes you helped NWP alot in the recent months / year. But if you leave NWP, post exclusively on another site, never post again I don't care, because you cause me too many problems. You have demanded money and in the same breath say it's not about the money - I'm just sick of it.
He comes the tilt
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QUOTE(Jewdonk @ Oct 11 2009, 07:12 PM)
I'm gonna get this shit shut down mark my words
By the time I am done with my email to Robbie, he is going to be sending me a thank you note right before he puts this fucking cesspool on lockdown permamently
QUOTE(Jewdonk @ Oct 11 2009, 07:36 PM)
keep underestimating me
QUOTE(Jewdonk @ Oct 11 2009, 07:59 PM)
NWP sucks and I am going to make sure that this shit gets wiped off the fucking web as soon as possible. I hate everything this site stands for and always have since the day I regged here 3 years ago
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LOL @ 'demanded money'
Yes Bryan when you are/were pocketing in the neighborhood of $5,000 a month just for 'doing nothing' and your biggest contributor and traffic machine is getting the proverbial shaft, then yea excuse me for playing my cards and trying to get a cut.
Preposterous to imply that I somehow tried to extort you for money for posting on NWP that is just classic.
You played numerous WSOP events as well as flushing God knows how much cash online over the last year because of the checks that you recieved from Pokernews. Not because of profit you are turning through playing poker and that is a fucking fact.
This email I got from the CEO of Pokernews has been sent to a grand total of 4 people I communicate and confide with almost daily. Never posted anywhere...not Boris, not 2+2..nowhere.
Obviously I have to clean house again because there is a mole in my midst, but you paint it all out like I am scheming or trying to hatch some plot to ruin you or your shitty website. This just gets better and better.
Guess you forgot about miconsdealer making me a very attractive offer to start and manage my own website which I flat turned down on NWP radio. His offer was certainly a hell of a lot more lucrative than the chump change you tried to pacify me with and then yank from under me a mere month later.
This site shouldn't even fucking exist right now because of your laziness and extremely unprofessional attitude. As the 'owner' and poster boy of this site, you would think that perhaps a little more attention would be paid to detail. But you are more concerned about cashing those monthly checks for sitting on your ass in your pink sweat pants and being a terrible poker player. Fuck it must be nice to get spoon fed thousands of dollars for getting stoned and spewing money like it grows on trees.
Without the money you make from NWP you would be sleeping on Barry's couch Bryan. This site was a cunthair away from being totally SHUT DOWN and you have the audacity to imply that I have been camping on this email with bad intentions.
Now I am starting to understand why the bulk of your previous core membership packed up in the middle night and fled in droves.
The day I decide to move forward with launching my own site, is the day I rape this site for every last lurker and registered member and stick my dick in it's ass.
My God you are just totally oblivious to reality sometimes (no actually most of the time) If I was going to crush NWP or post unflattering emails or write a tell all 'trip report' to Robbie about some of the unholy shit that goes on around here, I would have done it already. The fact that this cesspool still even has an active URL is a freak of nature...or because you did some world class ass kissing to keep it breathing
unbelievable
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QUOTE(Chinamaniac @ Nov 19 2009, 08:16 PM)
Maybe your delusional from too many cock sandwiches.
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QUOTE(Jewdonk @ Oct 11 2009, 07:12 PM)
I'm gonna get this shit shut down mark my words
By the time I am done with my email to Robbie, he is going to be sending me a thank you note right before he puts this fucking cesspool on lockdown permamently
QUOTE(Jewdonk @ Oct 11 2009, 07:36 PM)
keep underestimating me
QUOTE(Jewdonk @ Oct 11 2009, 07:59 PM)
NWP sucks and I am going to make sure that this shit gets wiped off the fucking web as soon as possible. I hate everything this site stands for and always have since the day I regged here 3 years ago