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***Official Dan Druff * on TV tonight reminder / rail thread***, Obv 60 minutes / AP & UB scam

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post Nov 30 2008, 04:58 PM
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no NWP logo at all?


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post Nov 30 2008, 04:59 PM
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Druff, why did it look like you were in love with the guy beside you in the interview when you glanced over to look at him?
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post Nov 30 2008, 04:59 PM
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QUOTE(micon @ Dec 1 2008, 12:58 AM) *
no NWP logo at all?

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post Nov 30 2008, 04:59 PM
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Micon says this started at 7 PM everywhere. It started at 6 in Txas so I missed all but the last 10 minutes. Goddamnit Micon you fucker.


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post Nov 30 2008, 04:59 PM
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QUOTE(micon @ Dec 1 2008, 12:58 AM) *
no NWP logo at all?

could kind of see the side of the donkey logo when they showed Druff playing at the wsop.

gotta get ur boys to start wearing the hats.


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post Nov 30 2008, 05:02 PM
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QUOTE(michael @ Nov 30 2008, 08:59 PM) *
QUOTE(micon @ Dec 1 2008, 12:58 AM) *
no NWP logo at all?

could kind of see the side of the donkey logo when they showed Druff playing at the wsop.

gotta get ur boys to start wearing the hats.

especially when they are losing hair


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post Nov 30 2008, 05:03 PM
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post Nov 30 2008, 05:04 PM
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Druff did a good job.


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post Nov 30 2008, 05:04 PM
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QUOTE(soccertease @ Dec 1 2008, 01:59 AM) *
Druff, why did it look like you were in love with the guy beside you in the interview when you glanced over to look at him?


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post Nov 30 2008, 05:05 PM
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When does the stars river card investigation special happen?
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post Nov 30 2008, 05:06 PM
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QUOTE(michael @ Dec 1 2008, 12:59 AM) *
QUOTE(micon @ Dec 1 2008, 12:58 AM) *
no NWP logo at all?

could kind of see the side of the donkey logo when they showed Druff playing at the wsop.

gotta get ur boys to start wearing the hats.


pretty sure CBS would over rule people wearing baseball caps with tacky logos on them


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post Nov 30 2008, 05:06 PM
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QUOTE(BeerAndPoker @ Nov 30 2008, 08:05 PM) *
When does the stars flop/turn/river card investigation special happen?


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post Nov 30 2008, 05:08 PM
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if anyone vtr'd it, plz upload to thepokerbay.org



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post Nov 30 2008, 05:09 PM
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ya someone upload one time, 4D hit up the Lious T thread


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post Nov 30 2008, 05:11 PM
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Who wants $20 on Anderson Cooper? I'll take Phelps lol.


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post Nov 30 2008, 05:11 PM
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The last clip of Dan Druff was about as bad as possible. Talking about how this could happen at any site will just scare people more than neccesary. I actually agree with you, and I know they just edit it as they please, but wow that came off terrible.

The whole story just made the whole industry seem shady. The story was pretty factual but wow they could have shown the industry in a better light. Like saying that many of the top sites are very well trusted, etc. It's not like anyone watching that report is going to rush to deposit on a site. If anything, it will make people who were weary just stay away completely.

What a nasty turn the whole online poker scene has taken the last couple of years.
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post Nov 30 2008, 05:13 PM
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meh, it's 60 Minutes. Pretty sure the story didn't change the mind of any of the geriatrics who regularly watch the show


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post Nov 30 2008, 05:17 PM
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QUOTE(threebet @ Dec 1 2008, 12:11 PM) *
The last clip of Dan Druff was about as bad as possible. Talking about how this could happen at any site will just scare people more than neccesary. I actually agree with you, and I know they just edit it as they please, but wow that came off terrible.

The whole story just made the whole industry seem shady. The story was pretty factual but wow they could have shown the industry in a better light. Like saying that many of the top sites are very well trusted, etc. It's not like anyone watching that report is going to rush to deposit on a site. If anything, it will make people who were weary just stay away completely.


It was a story about an illegal industry that seems not to care about a recent 20 million dollar scam. I'm not sure how you wanted them to handle it or put the industry in a better light.

And those were top sites everyone trusted until this shit happened.

Anyway, Druff you did a nice job.


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how long into the show does the segment air?


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post Nov 30 2008, 05:19 PM
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I listened to it on the phone with reggiman. Obviously I will watch it when 7:00 rolls around here.

My reaction:

THE GOOD:

- They did a pretty good job explaining what happened.

- The tone of the piece was properly against AP/UB, and didn't buy into their BS excuses.

- They called out Russ Hamilton, and made several references to how nobody has been brought to justice yet.



THE BAD:

- They cut everything out regarding the benefits of legalization and regulation. They had interviewed Greg Raymen, Mike Sexton, and others about this, but chose to include none of it. They also did not include the parts where I talked about how a regulated environment would have likely prevented this mess.

- They made several references to online poker being "illegal", which it isn't. In addition, they claimed at one point that we didn't go to the police "because online poker is illegal", which isn't true. That almost made it sound equivalent to us being ripped off in a drug deal and being unable to report it for fear of getting in trouble ourselves.

- They made a few references to the players getting refunded, but ignored the important point that we should have gotten much more than that. Again, I mentioned this during the interview and it was completely cut out.

- They scared everyone at the end with my dire warning that "it could happen on other sites at any time". Ouch.


OVERALL:

I have mixed feelings about it. They did a good job (in their limited available time) calling out AP/UB for what happened, but vilified online poker somewhat and ignored the benefits of legalization/regulation.
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