Post flop LHE situation

Full Tilt Poker Game #5944231109: Table Patricia (6 max) - $10/$20 - Limit Hold'em - 18:43:32 ET - 2008/04/07
Seat 1: lokovicvic ($25)
Seat 2: zoezoe ($203)
Seat 3: toomuchaction ($154), is sitting out
Seat 4: Zipper49 ($230)
Seat 5: WorldWithin ($1,189)
Seat 6: mikeyav ($221.50)
Zipper49 posts the small blind of $5
WorldWithin posts the big blind of $10
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to WorldWithin [8s Qs]
mikeyav folds
mikeyav: omg
mikeyav: tough
lokovicvic has 15 seconds left to act
lokovicvic folds
zoezoe raises to $20
Zipper49 folds
WorldWithin calls $10
*** FLOP *** [7h 8d 4s]
WorldWithin checks
zoezoe checks
*** TURN *** [7h 8d 4s] [7s]
WorldWithin bets $20
zoezoe folds
Uncalled bet of $20 returned to WorldWithin
WorldWithin mucks
WorldWithin wins the pot ($43)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $45 | Rake $2
Board: [7h 8d 4s 7s]
Seat 1: lokovicvic didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: zoezoe (button) folded on the Turn
Seat 3: toomuchaction is sitting out
Seat 4: Zipper49 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: WorldWithin (big blind) collected ($43), mucked
Seat 6: mikeyav didn't bet (folded)



Would you check again here hoping he fires out for a check raise? Player is obv. pretty tight if he's willing to float his hand on this board and not fire a cont. bet. May or may not play along with ATish hand. checking once more gives him most likely 4 outs which isn't a big deal imo if he checks behind again.

I'd bet the flop there. A lot of times people who raise pre-flop will go ahead and raise the flop there with Ace high hoping to see a free turn and of course the river. Even if they don't raise they are likely to take one off in which case you would have made at least one more small bet. He only checked because you have him that option. I like to bet and take that option away. And then of course there is the other scenario to consider where he actually does have a hand, in which case you will get called or raised anyway.

I don't mind the check there. Its a standard check/raise flop in limit. I guess if you know the guy is super tight just lead out all flops when you flop a pair/draw instead of the c/r.

I play it the same. C/R on the flop is super standard. He should be c-betting his entire range.

yeah most people will c bet that flop. I mix it up with leads and ck raises. I lead probably 15-25% of the time there depending on opponents and table perception and ck raise it the rest. more concerned if you lead out the turn with flush draw / top pair or go for a second check raise. esp. with it pairing up he might have you on air.

There are many more reasons why directly betting the flop here is better. I can tell you them, but not here. Perhaps a PM or the VIP forum. One of the main reasons is that check raising the flop, as others have stated, is STANDARD. So many people play limit Hold'em, and so many are specialists, that you should try to be anything but standard or transparent when you play. I will tell you this...if someone CR'd me on the flop after I raised pre-flop I would be inclined to 3 bet them for a LOT of reasons, some of which should be apparent.

I would be inclined to cap sometimes too. I'll PM you about it, but I don't think you'll be educating the masses posting in this forum as about 9 people read it.

I responded to your PM. I don't really post here too much because I don't like people to know how I think.

It is a pretty standard hand you played it properly. I am not a big fan of donking flops out of position but I guess it works for some. How he checks behind on the flop and folds to a turn bet I don't know.

You played every street the exact same way I would've fwiw.

Which was check, check?....

Yeah, thats probably how I would've played it. Going for a cr obv, but it didn't work out that way. I guess it probably depends on the player. Most people will continuations bet any two here, so if the villian is one of those guys i'd checkraise. Some guys are habitual checkers from behind when they miss a flop, if thats the case betting out is obv correct.

When I play retards, I play standard and get paid.