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Jul 10 2008, 12:06 AM
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QUOTE(SetofKs @ Jul 10 2008, 02:50 AM)  Back in the day, I used to be able to fire up 6 tables of $10-20 lhe on party and crush it on a regular basis. I would just play like a robot and rake in the money. Recently I tried playing 4 of these tables at 5-10 lhe and got crushed. The game was too tough, and playing that many tables I couldn't really make any reads on the players. I'll admit LHE isn't my specialty, but I still think I am a pretty good player. My question is can a above average/good LHE player not named Mike Schneider or Dan Druff make money playing more than two tables of 6 max above the 2-4 level online? It seems to me like the games are too tough, and you need to be able to make player reads in these games to beat them. To me it is too tough to make these read when multi tabling. Do any of you guys consistently beat these games while multi tabling? Maybe I just suck. I pretty much have been 2 tabling 2-4 and 3-6 and making good money playing like a robot and finding donks. There are plenty on cake at these levels. To me it seems the 5-10 and 10- 20 games have gotten tougher the last 2 yrs but I don't play them often cause II am underrolled at the moment. I have played limit with you on stars a few times and you should be able to crush the 3-6 games over there. SOmetimes 3 and 4 tabling 1-2 can be very profitable as well for me. But all games are a lot tougher than the party days. I have been watching the low limit plo games and they look very beatable over there as well.
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Jul 10 2008, 04:27 AM
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I know dbeckham7467 is a huge winner (at least in $/day) and he plays completely on autopilot without HUD. There are also quite a few other high volume low/mid stakes players at Stars, I assume they are all winners?  There's no way you get crushed at 5/10, but it's definitely no picnic.
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Jul 10 2008, 05:50 AM
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QUOTE(SetofKs @ Jul 10 2008, 04:50 PM)  My question is can a above average/good LHE player not named Mike Schneider or Dan Druff make money playing more than two tables of 6 max above the 2-4 level online? I actually thought I heard Druff say he can't, or doesn't play more than 2 tables.
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Jul 11 2008, 11:11 PM
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QUOTE(mhFo5XdD @ Jul 10 2008, 10:27 PM)  I know dbeckham7467 is a huge winner (at least in $/day) and he plays completely on autopilot without HUD. There are also quite a few other high volume low/mid stakes players at Stars, I assume they are all winners?  There's no way you get crushed at 5/10, but it's definitely no picnic. plays far from auto pilot...ive logged a large amount of hands with him..and when he isnt 4 betting 10jo and flopping straights he is check raising bottom pair on the river. He is a good player but makes good moves for how many tables he plays at once...with that said i hate the guy
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Jul 12 2008, 12:29 AM
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QUOTE(faduniak @ Jul 12 2008, 03:11 AM)  QUOTE(mhFo5XdD @ Jul 10 2008, 10:27 PM)  I know dbeckham7467 is a huge winner (at least in $/day) and he plays completely on autopilot without HUD. There are also quite a few other high volume low/mid stakes players at Stars, I assume they are all winners?  There's no way you get crushed at 5/10, but it's definitely no picnic. plays far from auto pilot...ive logged a large amount of hands with him..and when he isnt 4 betting 10jo and flopping straights he is check raising bottom pair on the river. He is a good player but makes good moves for how many tables he plays at once...with that said i hate the guy I hate his gay avatar
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Jul 14 2008, 05:02 AM
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QUOTE(DanDruff @ Jul 11 2008, 10:32 AM)  Good question, actually.
I was never a fan of "extreme" multi-tabling in limit hold 'em. I'm referring to playing more than 3 tables at once. The only way this is really feasible is if you are in exceptionally good games to where you can still be +EV despite not being able to pay full attention to the game and its opponents. For example, if you find 4 6-max games with at least one uberdonk in each, it's probably good to play all four if you can handle it.
Otherwise, you're probably better off playing fewer games and concentrating on them a bit more. If that's not enough action for you, try playing a bit higher but running fewer tables.
Personally, I usually only have 1 or 2 games running. At times I'll do 3, but never more than 4. Keep in mind when Druff gives advice about multitabling that he doesn't use a hud or even PT as far as I know. For awhile I was playing 12-15 tables at once when the games died down post UIGEA and no huge donks were around. I would say the answer is yes you can win mass multitabling as a robot, but if you do this you absolutely need a hud. It's very important when a table pops up and you see an utg raise from a 18vpip player that you are folding your AT on the button to him in a 6 handed game. Every site including stars will give you some sort of rewards for playing, but unless you're going to be putting in huge volume to get supernova I recommend playing elsewhere.
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Jul 14 2008, 09:20 PM
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QUOTE(Chinamaniac @ Jul 12 2008, 02:29 AM)  QUOTE(faduniak @ Jul 12 2008, 03:11 AM)  QUOTE(mhFo5XdD @ Jul 10 2008, 10:27 PM)  I know dbeckham7467 is a huge winner (at least in $/day) and he plays completely on autopilot without HUD. There are also quite a few other high volume low/mid stakes players at Stars, I assume they are all winners?  There's no way you get crushed at 5/10, but it's definitely no picnic. plays far from auto pilot...ive logged a large amount of hands with him..and when he isnt 4 betting 10jo and flopping straights he is check raising bottom pair on the river. He is a good player but makes good moves for how many tables he plays at once...with that said i hate the guy I hate his gay avatar I talk mad shit to the little fucker....seems like such a luckbox but his stats tell a diff story
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Jul 15 2008, 12:00 AM
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QUOTE(benhogan @ Jul 15 2008, 01:20 AM)  QUOTE(Chinamaniac @ Jul 12 2008, 02:29 AM)  QUOTE(faduniak @ Jul 12 2008, 03:11 AM)  QUOTE(mhFo5XdD @ Jul 10 2008, 10:27 PM)  I know dbeckham7467 is a huge winner (at least in $/day) and he plays completely on autopilot without HUD. There are also quite a few other high volume low/mid stakes players at Stars, I assume they are all winners?  There's no way you get crushed at 5/10, but it's definitely no picnic. plays far from auto pilot...ive logged a large amount of hands with him..and when he isnt 4 betting 10jo and flopping straights he is check raising bottom pair on the river. He is a good player but makes good moves for how many tables he plays at once...with that said i hate the guy I hate his gay avatar I talk mad shit to the little fucker....seems like such a luckbox but his stats tell a diff story I usually do well against him
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Jul 22 2008, 05:49 PM
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QUOTE(Chinamaniac @ Jul 12 2008, 06:29 PM)  QUOTE(faduniak @ Jul 12 2008, 03:11 AM)  QUOTE(mhFo5XdD @ Jul 10 2008, 10:27 PM)  I know dbeckham7467 is a huge winner (at least in $/day) and he plays completely on autopilot without HUD. There are also quite a few other high volume low/mid stakes players at Stars, I assume they are all winners?  There's no way you get crushed at 5/10, but it's definitely no picnic. plays far from auto pilot...ive logged a large amount of hands with him..and when he isnt 4 betting 10jo and flopping straights he is check raising bottom pair on the river. He is a good player but makes good moves for how many tables he plays at once...with that said i hate the guy I hate his gay avatar he says its a picture of marchinvest. not sure if thats true
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Jul 24 2008, 11:43 AM
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QUOTE(gum @ Jul 22 2008, 09:49 PM)  QUOTE(Chinamaniac @ Jul 12 2008, 06:29 PM)  QUOTE(faduniak @ Jul 12 2008, 03:11 AM)  QUOTE(mhFo5XdD @ Jul 10 2008, 10:27 PM)  I know dbeckham7467 is a huge winner (at least in $/day) and he plays completely on autopilot without HUD. There are also quite a few other high volume low/mid stakes players at Stars, I assume they are all winners?  There's no way you get crushed at 5/10, but it's definitely no picnic. plays far from auto pilot...ive logged a large amount of hands with him..and when he isnt 4 betting 10jo and flopping straights he is check raising bottom pair on the river. He is a good player but makes good moves for how many tables he plays at once...with that said i hate the guy I hate his gay avatar he says its a picture of marchinvest. not sure if thats true  I JUST BENT IT LIKE BECKHAM FACE
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Jul 24 2008, 11:53 PM
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I did a month on Stars playing 2/4 and 3/6 limit 6max and I had dbbeckam as a loser at the 3/6 limit. I thought the guy was a complete fish and sat every table he was at and did very well. I guess you guys got more than a couple thousand hands on him to show he is in the green?
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Jul 25 2008, 01:40 AM
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QUOTE(jinxedchoker @ Jul 25 2008, 05:53 PM)  I did a month on Stars playing 2/4 and 3/6 limit 6max and I had dbbeckam as a loser at the 3/6 limit. I thought the guy was a complete fish and sat every table he was at and did very well. I guess you guys got more than a couple thousand hands on him to show he is in the green? i have 135k hands on beckham thus far and he is a 1.41BB/100 loser totaling almost 12k in not even 2 months they say due to his super nova elite status he will make 100k in rakeback this year, but you gotta wonder if every months is as bad as the one i have on record if he even makes any money at all at the end of the year and if, is it really worth the hustle
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Jul 30 2008, 01:15 PM
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QUOTE(KillAllHumans @ Jul 6 2006, 09:40 AM)  QUOTE(jinxedchoker @ Jul 25 2008, 05:53 PM)  I did a month on Stars playing 2/4 and 3/6 limit 6max and I had dbbeckam as a loser at the 3/6 limit. I thought the guy was a complete fish and sat every table he was at and did very well. I guess you guys got more than a couple thousand hands on him to show he is in the green? i have 135k hands on beckham thus far and he is a 1.41BB/100 loser totaling almost 12k in not even 2 months they say due to his super nova elite status he will make 100k in rakeback this year, but you gotta wonder if every months is as bad as the one i have on record if he even makes any money at all at the end of the year and if, is it really worth the hustle I'm pretty suprised that people have all these losing numbers on beckham, on my old computer I had about 6k hands on him and he was one of the biggest if not the biggest winner in my db. Since I've had my new computer in March and didn't play on stars until May however I'm almost positive it's not the same person playing the account or for some reason has drastically tightened his game going from like 29/20 to like a 24/18 style. He also used to get very spewy with me as I would with him which is no longer the case. On my new pc I have like 2-3k hands on him and he is also winning around 3bb/100 but he has seemed to be running really well whenever I play with him lately. I'm pretty sure him and marchinvest are friends from the Minneapolis area that go for SN elite and I've become rather curious how many people are playing that account to gain that status. Playing 2/4 and 3/6 I think would take somewhere around 1.4-1.7 million hands to get there in the year. If he can hold 700 hands/hr it's taking about 2140 hours to get to 1.5mil, that has to get extremely tiring and I would think someone has to fill in from time to time.
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