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 Oct 24 2008, 08:22 PM
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NWP Pirahna
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QUOTE(reggiman @ Oct 24 2008, 10:57 PM)  QUOTE(SetofKs @ Oct 25 2008, 02:59 AM) Wow, lost another $666 today. That means im down almost $2000 playing $34.50 and $52 sngs in the last 2 days. Thats insane. I didn't know that was possible. Im going to pick up a 12 pack, then im going to attempt bankroll suicide in plo when I get back. seems like a lot easier death than slowly grinding my bankroll down to $0 playing sit n goes. The one thing I can definitely agree with you on is that sngs are a waste of time. You can make more playing 0.50/1.00 limit than $52 sngs, probably twice as much per hour. Hmm, can't say I agree with this. I know a lot of people who have made a lot of money playing sngs. I know I used to make over $100 per hour 8 tabling the $215 ones on party, probably made closer to $200 per hour. According to sharkscope.com jhub3000 earns an 8% ROI playing sngs on cake with an average buy of $116. Thats pretty good considering he plays 8-12 sngs at a time That doesn't include his 75% rakeback deal with cake. According to his blog at http://jhub3000.livejournal.com/ hes made over half a mil this year and he plays sngs almost exclusively with most of those being on cake. I am not saying that SNGS arent a joke, im just saying that there is money to be made in them. But, in order to make money in SNGS you must multi table them. Theres no way you'd be able to make decent money playing 1 or 2 at a time.
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Oct 24 2008, 09:14 PM
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NWP John Anthony
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QUOTE(SetofKs @ Oct 25 2008, 04:22 AM) QUOTE(reggiman @ Oct 24 2008, 10:57 PM) QUOTE(SetofKs @ Oct 25 2008, 02:59 AM) Wow, lost another $666 today. That means im down almost $2000 playing $34.50 and $52 sngs in the last 2 days. Thats insane. I didn't know that was possible. Im going to pick up a 12 pack, then im going to attempt bankroll suicide in plo when I get back. seems like a lot easier death than slowly grinding my bankroll down to $0 playing sit n goes. The one thing I can definitely agree with you on is that sngs are a waste of time. You can make more playing 0.50/1.00 limit than $52 sngs, probably twice as much per hour. Hmm, can't say I agree with this. I know a lot of people who have made a lot of money playing sngs. I know I used to make over $100 per hour 8 tabling the $215 ones on party, probably made closer to $200 per hour. According to sharkscope.com jhub3000 earns an 8% ROI playing sngs on cake with an average buy of $116. Thats pretty good considering he plays 8-12 sngs at a time That doesn't include his 75% rakeback deal with cake. According to his blog at http://jhub3000.livejournal.com/ hes made over half a mil this year and he plays sngs almost exclusively with most of those being on cake. I am not saying that SNGS arent a joke, im just saying that there is money to be made in them. But, in order to make money in SNGS you must multi table them. Theres no way you'd be able to make decent money playing 1 or 2 at a time. I suppose it's possible, but I'm sure that guy is really one of the elite. To play 12 at a time you have to be extremely quick with decisions. I'm not sure any "good" sng player could do 8% roi playing that many at once, especially 6max sngs. There are a lot of ways of making a ton of money online. I know a guy that plays in only games where there's a donk present. He plays anything from 15/30 to 200/400 lhe, although most of his play is 30/60 down. He hasn't had a year under 1m since 2003. He may be one of the 10 biggest lifetime winners all time in online poker, and you most likely wouldn't recognize one of his screen names even though he plays on every site all day every day.
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Oct 25 2008, 05:56 PM
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NWP Super-Fish
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QUOTE(reggiman @ Oct 25 2008, 03:14 PM) QUOTE(SetofKs @ Oct 25 2008, 04:22 AM) QUOTE(reggiman @ Oct 24 2008, 10:57 PM) QUOTE(SetofKs @ Oct 25 2008, 02:59 AM) Wow, lost another $666 today. That means im down almost $2000 playing $34.50 and $52 sngs in the last 2 days. Thats insane. I didn't know that was possible. Im going to pick up a 12 pack, then im going to attempt bankroll suicide in plo when I get back. seems like a lot easier death than slowly grinding my bankroll down to $0 playing sit n goes. The one thing I can definitely agree with you on is that sngs are a waste of time. You can make more playing 0.50/1.00 limit than $52 sngs, probably twice as much per hour. Hmm, can't say I agree with this. I know a lot of people who have made a lot of money playing sngs. I know I used to make over $100 per hour 8 tabling the $215 ones on party, probably made closer to $200 per hour. According to sharkscope.com jhub3000 earns an 8% ROI playing sngs on cake with an average buy of $116. Thats pretty good considering he plays 8-12 sngs at a time That doesn't include his 75% rakeback deal with cake. According to his blog at http://jhub3000.livejournal.com/ hes made over half a mil this year and he plays sngs almost exclusively with most of those being on cake. I am not saying that SNGS arent a joke, im just saying that there is money to be made in them. But, in order to make money in SNGS you must multi table them. Theres no way you'd be able to make decent money playing 1 or 2 at a time. I suppose it's possible, but I'm sure that guy is really one of the elite. To play 12 at a time you have to be extremely quick with decisions. I'm not sure any "good" sng player could do 8% roi playing that many at once, especially 6max sngs. There are a lot of ways of making a ton of money online. I know a guy that plays in only games where there's a donk present. He plays anything from 15/30 to 200/400 lhe, although most of his play is 30/60 down. He hasn't had a year under 1m since 2003. He may be one of the 10 biggest lifetime winners all time in online poker, and you most likely wouldn't recognize one of his screen names even though he plays on every site all day every day. Brag post?
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Oct 26 2008, 12:23 AM
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NWP Pirahna
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two minor points; i believe sportsbook.com poker is a cake skin, not visa versa.
second off; i honestly dont know what to think anymore. i do know that i havent deposited to a poker site in about 2 weeks, and for personal and professional reasons i dont think i will any time soon.
all i know for sure is that a 87% favorite is supposed to stand up 87% of the time, and the percentage of times a hand stands up online appears, to my eyes at least, to be impacted by the aggression of the person behind and the overall size of the pot. and lets be frank; maybe it *is* just me. its 100% possible that i simply run bad lonnnnnnng term. i once flipped a coin heads 13 times in a row, streaks happen. people win lotto twice in a row. the outcome is arbitrary in statistical anomalies.
regardless, ive turned a corner and i no longer enjoy online poker enough to justify the impact it has on my spirit, my finances, and my emotions. i believe ive made just about everyone who staked me a profit, and i remain proud of that and will continue to accept stakes for both tourns and cash games, and to donk off deposit bonuses from the sportsbooks, but as far as my own cash goes, id rather just stick with live poker and spend my down time writing or collecting exotic pornography.
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Oct 28 2008, 05:33 PM
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I've never played on Cake, but recently heard about 75% rakeback for new members? Can anyone tell me how to go about getting this deal?
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Weissman420 (6:11:18 PM): I can't login to nwp because i banned myself forever
Weissman420 (6:11:24 PM): yes, because I am a recovering addict
Weissman420 (6:11:38 PM): there, you can all linger on that and make fun of me while I pursue a real life for the next few years
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Oct 28 2008, 08:45 PM
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NWP John Anthony
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QUOTE(noolimit @ Oct 29 2008, 02:33 AM) I've never played on Cake, but recently heard about 75% rakeback for new members? Can anyone tell me how to go about getting this deal? That's for propping, but there are all sorts of gay rules on what games you can play. You're better off with the standard 33%, and if I'm not mistaken most prop programs don't count NLH rake.
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Oct 28 2008, 09:45 PM
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NWP Maniac
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QUOTE(reggiman @ Oct 29 2008, 12:45 AM) QUOTE(noolimit @ Oct 29 2008, 02:33 AM) I've never played on Cake, but recently heard about 75% rakeback for new members? Can anyone tell me how to go about getting this deal? That's for propping, but there are all sorts of gay rules on what games you can play. You're better off with the standard 33%, and if I'm not mistaken most prop programs don't count NLH rake. You just need to play 3-6 or above limit or NL and you cant join any games that are 3 handed or more and no abusive language.
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Oct 29 2008, 06:28 AM
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NWP Pirahna
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QUOTE(thebeas @ Oct 26 2008, 01:56 AM) QUOTE(reggiman @ Oct 25 2008, 03:14 PM) QUOTE(SetofKs @ Oct 25 2008, 04:22 AM) QUOTE(reggiman @ Oct 24 2008, 10:57 PM) QUOTE(SetofKs @ Oct 25 2008, 02:59 AM) Wow, lost another $666 today. That means im down almost $2000 playing $34.50 and $52 sngs in the last 2 days. Thats insane. I didn't know that was possible. Im going to pick up a 12 pack, then im going to attempt bankroll suicide in plo when I get back. seems like a lot easier death than slowly grinding my bankroll down to $0 playing sit n goes. The one thing I can definitely agree with you on is that sngs are a waste of time. You can make more playing 0.50/1.00 limit than $52 sngs, probably twice as much per hour. Hmm, can't say I agree with this. I know a lot of people who have made a lot of money playing sngs. I know I used to make over $100 per hour 8 tabling the $215 ones on party, probably made closer to $200 per hour. According to sharkscope.com jhub3000 earns an 8% ROI playing sngs on cake with an average buy of $116. Thats pretty good considering he plays 8-12 sngs at a time That doesn't include his 75% rakeback deal with cake. According to his blog at http://jhub3000.livejournal.com/ hes made over half a mil this year and he plays sngs almost exclusively with most of those being on cake. I am not saying that SNGS arent a joke, im just saying that there is money to be made in them. But, in order to make money in SNGS you must multi table them. Theres no way you'd be able to make decent money playing 1 or 2 at a time. I suppose it's possible, but I'm sure that guy is really one of the elite. To play 12 at a time you have to be extremely quick with decisions. I'm not sure any "good" sng player could do 8% roi playing that many at once, especially 6max sngs. There are a lot of ways of making a ton of money online. I know a guy that plays in only games where there's a donk present. He plays anything from 15/30 to 200/400 lhe, although most of his play is 30/60 down. He hasn't had a year under 1m since 2003. He may be one of the 10 biggest lifetime winners all time in online poker, and you most likely wouldn't recognize one of his screen names even though he plays on every site all day every day. Brag post? definitely. Reggi, so you are saying you observe games nonstop to see if there is a donk in a game? How else are you aware of said donk? Do you just take notes on players and try to find them? If that is you which I wouldn't be surprised since you love to brag, that is pretty impressive that you have consistently made over 1m when you play the majority of the time under 30/60.
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Oct 29 2008, 01:57 PM
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NWP Pirahna
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QUOTE(reggiman @ Oct 29 2008, 02:52 PM) Unfortunately I'm not talking about myself... but yes I do most of the same things this friend does. He just logs a ton more hours than I do, and he's also a better 6max player than I am. I use a buddy list program with a database of over 1000 megatards loaded into it. What program? I wanna start using game selection.
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Oct 30 2008, 02:14 AM
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NWP Pirahna
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Wow, just got aces 3 hands in a row. I think thats the first time that has ever happened to me. I dont know what is more amazing, getting aces 3 hands in a row, or the fact that they held up all 3 times?
Hand #1669011673000454: Innsbruck (Turbo, 6-max) 11673
Seat 1: kill*** (455.60 in chips)
Seat 2: OneStepAhead (543.47 in chips)
Seat 3: Cash*** (95.00 in chips)
Seat 9: ruin*** (211.13 in chips)
Cash***: posts small blind $2.50
ruin***: posts big blind $5
Dealt to OneStepAhead [ Ad As ]
kill***: folds
OneStepAhead: raises to $10
Cash***: folds
ruin***: raises to $15
OneStepAhead: raises to $20
ruin***: calls
@@@ F_L_O_P @@@ [ Th Qc 2h ]
ruin***: checks
OneStepAhead: bets $5
ruin***: calls
# # # TURN # # # [ Kh ]
ruin***: checks
OneStepAhead: bets $10
ruin***: folds
OneStepAhead: returns uncalled bet $10
*** SHOW DOWN ***
OneStepAhead: mucks
OneStepAhead wins $50.50
Hand #1669011673000455: Innsbruck (Turbo, 6-max) 11673
Seat 1: kill*** (455.60 in chips)
Seat 2: OneStepAhead (568.97 in chips)
Seat 3: Cash*** (92.50 in chips)
Seat 9: ruin*** (186.13 in chips)
ruin***: posts small blind $2.50
kill***: posts big blind $5
Dealt to OneStepAhead [ Ah Ac ]
OneStepAhead: raises to $10
Cash***: folds
ruin***: folds
kill***: raises to $15
OneStepAhead: raises to $20
kill***: calls
@@@ F_L_O_P @@@ [ Kh 5h 6c ]
kill***: checks
OneStepAhead: bets $5
kill***: calls
# # # TURN # # # [ 7s ]
kill***: checks
OneStepAhead: bets $10
kill***: calls
&&& RIVER &&& [ Qh ]
kill***: checks
OneStepAhead: bets $10
kill***: calls
*** SHOW DOWN ***
OneStepAhead: shows [ Ah Ac ] (Pair of Aces )
kill***: mucks
OneStepAhead wins $90.50 with Pair of Aces
kill***: mucks [ Jd, Js ] (Pair)
Hand #1669011673000456: Innsbruck (Turbo, 6-max) 11673
Seat 1: kill*** (410.60 in chips)
Seat 2: OneStepAhead (614.47 in chips)
Seat 3: Cash*** (92.50 in chips)
Seat 9: ruin*** (183.63 in chips)
kill***: posts small blind $2.50
OneStepAhead: posts big blind $5
Dealt to OneStepAhead [ As Ah ]
Cash***: calls
ruin***: calls
kill***: folds
OneStepAhead: raises to $10
Cash***: calls
ruin***: calls
@@@ F_L_O_P @@@ [ 8c 9d 2h ]
OneStepAhead: bets $5
Cash***: calls
ruin***: calls
# # # TURN # # # [ Jh ]
OneStepAhead: bets $10
Cash***: calls
ruin***: calls
&&& RIVER &&& [ 7d ]
OneStepAhead: checks
Cash***: checks
ruin***: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
OneStepAhead: shows [ As Ah ] (Pair of Aces )
Cash***: mucks
ruin***: mucks
OneStepAhead wins $75.50 with Pair of Aces
Cash***: mucks [ 7h, 6h ] (Pair)
ruin***: mucks [ 2d, Ad ] (Pair)
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Oct 30 2008, 03:32 PM
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NWP Pirahna
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Probably my 5th one outer this month.
Hand #1669012268001330: Big Bucks XIII (6-max) 12268
Seat 1: jame*** (58.05 in chips)
Seat 2: #1 c*** (152.60 in chips)
Seat 3: CassiusKing (460.60 in chips)
Seat 8: DEAT*** (42.55 in chips)
Seat 9: onew*** (161.35 in chips)
Seat 10: What*** (202.30 in chips)
onew***: posts small blind $1
What***: posts big blind $2
Dealt to CassiusKing [ Ah Ad ]
jame***: folds
#1 c***: calls
CassiusKing: raises to $10
DEAT***: folds
onew***: folds
What***: calls
#1 c***: calls
@@@ F_L_O_P @@@ [ As Td Js ]
What***: checks
#1 c***: checks
CassiusKing: bets $25
What***: raises to $50
#1 c***: folds
CassiusKing: calls
# # # TURN # # # [ 2h ]
What***: bets $65.50
CassiusKing: is all in 400.6000
What***: is all in 76.8000
CassiusKing: returns uncalled bet $258.30
CassiusKing: shows Ah Ad
What***: shows Jc Jh
&&& RIVER &&& [ Jd ]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
What*** wins $412.60 with Four of a Kind, Jacks
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Be fearful when others are greedy and be greedy when others are fearful.
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Oct 30 2008, 07:39 PM
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QUOTE(SetofKs @ Oct 29 2008, 01:10 AM) I'd think one could make a killing on cake low limit tables with 75% rakeback just playing tight like a rock. Their rakeback works so everybody dealt in the hand is considered to have paid equal rake, so you dont only get rakeback on hands that you put money into the rake. Multi tabling those low limit tables with 75% like that would be a great way to build a bankroll. If AP can be a guide, playing tight wont get it done when most of the table are props.
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Oct 30 2008, 07:43 PM
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NWP Pirahna
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QUOTE(Epistate @ Oct 30 2008, 10:39 PM) QUOTE(SetofKs @ Oct 29 2008, 01:10 AM) I'd think one could make a killing on cake low limit tables with 75% rakeback just playing tight like a rock. Their rakeback works so everybody dealt in the hand is considered to have paid equal rake, so you dont only get rakeback on hands that you put money into the rake. Multi tabling those low limit tables with 75% like that would be a great way to build a bankroll. If AP can be a guide, playing tight wont get it done when most of the table are props. Are a lot of cake's low limit players props? Seems to me like everybody that plays 3-6 on this site is god awful. Heres an example from about 10 seconds ago. http://cakepoker.com//HandHistory/?Hand=xc...BwIjAzczEx8M%3d LOL, 43 of spades.......
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Oct 30 2008, 07:54 PM
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NWP Golden Donkey
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QUOTE(SetofKs @ Oct 30 2008, 08:43 PM) QUOTE(Epistate @ Oct 30 2008, 10:39 PM) QUOTE(SetofKs @ Oct 29 2008, 01:10 AM) I'd think one could make a killing on cake low limit tables with 75% rakeback just playing tight like a rock. Their rakeback works so everybody dealt in the hand is considered to have paid equal rake, so you dont only get rakeback on hands that you put money into the rake. Multi tabling those low limit tables with 75% like that would be a great way to build a bankroll. If AP can be a guide, playing tight wont get it done when most of the table are props. Are a lot of cake's low limit players props? Seems to me like everybody that plays 3-6 on this site is god awful. Heres an example from about 10 seconds ago. http://cakepoker.com//HandHistory/?Hand=xc...BwIjAzczEx8M%3d LOL, 43 of spades....... I have no idea but the 75% number is going around, so it wont be long. As far as the god awful, I think SH limit games look better than they are a lot of the time. Games that look like people are putting too much action in are usually tougher than meets the eye, or at least not as beatable as one would imagine. Basically Im saying that playing like a maniac tard SH is more correct than folding too much. So if the games are super aggressive, no matter how retarded you may think certain individuals are, your edge is likely less than percieved
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